A "trick" that has worked for me and Bonita is to get ahead (best guess) of them, cast in a good direction, and just let your line sink (I most often use intermediate for them), even if it goes vertical, then when they pass by, even if they are not breaking I start a fast strip in and often hook up... I also have hooked stripers that I did not know were there... Saves on the arms blind casting, but it keeps you in the game.