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MFF US Northeast => New York => Topic started by: rgfixit on Jun 14, 2020, 05:28 PM
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Headed to one of my favorite holes on the creek near me today. Took my 5 wt TFO Axiom, some corn and corn flies. On arrival I saw at least 20 in a big pod working their way upstream feeding all the way. Had to wait almost a half hour for an opportunity to approach.
I worked my way down the bank and sat down. Got my gear ready and tossed out a small handful of corn. They came in fast and frenzied. Tossed out the corn fly and it was game on.
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The opening of my net is 24". This guy took 4 tries to net and barely fit. I'd guess about 8-10 lbs. Had me out to the backing twice.
A second fish of equal size moved in after I released the first. I let it go by. I was still recovering from the first.
I'm gonna need a bigger net.
Great stuff!
Rg
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That’s awesome! They must make that drag scream!
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Nice one Bob. They were rolling all morning on the lake while we were out there..
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Way to go! It must be a thrill to get one of those brutes on a fly rod. I've only done it with spinning gear on the Delaware (NJ).
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You ever want to trade in your trout gear, I'd be happy to take you. It's more hunting than fishing. They remind me of Redfish.
My Red Truck Diesel is almost enough reel for these fish. The old South Bend 1155's are actually better.
Next up is the Mulberry Drop. About 2-3 weeks out by my calculation.
Some serious carps on the fly.
Rg
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My buddy (RIP) use to carp fish alot with his fly rod and did quite well fishing the ponds in front of Malls and hospitals! You never know.
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I use a few different versions.
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Yesterday I was using the fly with the foam kernel. Sometimes they reject that one if they're feeling fussy. And I use one without.
It's a #12, 200R nymph hook with a small clouser bead eye. Yellow fine chenille. That's about it.
One fellow I run into at the canal uses a 12' Spey rod with a #12 octopus hook. He ties it like a hair rig and uses a vertical setup and strike indicator. He'll chum an area and flip that rig out to float just above bottom. It's a hoot to watch him work the Spey rod and hook into a big carp with it. He's very good at it.
Rg
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Sweet!! They're like a big truck just grabbing gears.......
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Mulberries are about two weeks out. Taking the boat out tomorrow. I'll know if the carp are done spawning. If they are I want to give a few European techniques a try this week.
Rg
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Found 3 more mulberry trees this morning that I didn't know were there. They're loaded with fruit and showing signs of red.
Gonna have to tie up some more mulberry flies 👍
Rg
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Do you have a movie camera? I'd love to see you in action on this one since your the only avid mulberry fly fisher I've heard of.
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I did a GoPro a few years ago. Maybe I can set up my other camera and get some footage. Its going to be a big drop this year for some reason. The trees are loaded.
Rg
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Hit a couple spots on the canal this afternoon. Nothing happening. Might set up in the boat and give them a shot in the early morning.
Rg
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Going out very early this morning to try for some carp. Went yesterday morning and watched the sun come up.
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Managed 2 out of 3 for the morning. Nothing huge. Trying a different pack bait today. We shall see.
Mulberries are getting close. I'd say next week if the heat keeps up. We could really use some rain.
Rg
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Well, not fly rod but, I set up osme rod holders for my boat yesterday.
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Worked really well actually.
Lost a pig this morning. I was way under gunned for a fish that big. Couldn't do anything with it. Finally broke off 20 lb Braid line.
Gonna have to re-assess my carp rods....like I need a couple more rods🙄
Rg
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Sits pretty still with a 15 lb off the bow and stern. I fish slack lines anyway. There's relaese clips with bead chains both foreword rod holders. Puts a bit of tension on but allows for movement. I use the rod holders bank fishing.
Rg
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Think I'm going to head t the creek tomorrow for some bait testing.
Rg
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Skipped fishing this morning and went to the creek for some carp bait testing. Tried several mixes.
Base mix of creamed corn, bread flour, Kero syrup and corn flour.
Flavored with;
Cherry
Pinaple mango
Banana
And just plain
I used drink flavorings that you can buy in little squirt bottles to add to bottled water.
The other mix was Panko bread crumbs, strawberry jello and creamed corn.
There were no carp in the main pool when I got there. I placed the different baits in different spots but in the same area. After 10 minutes or so they moved in and demolished the Panko mix first. A clear winner at attracting them to an area. After that was gone the worked through all the rest of the baits.
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Some of these slugs are well over 24". I have a couple video clips I'll try to download later.
Interesting test for sure. Gives me more confidence in the pack baits I've been making. I'm guessing the Panko mix dissolved faster than the flour mix did. Once he flour mix softened they were all over it.
Rg
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Here's a link to to a clip of them feeding.
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If someone can tell me how to post the video directly id appreciate it.
rg
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Dont use the url just copy and paste it.... ;)
Theres some nice ones in there.....
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Thanks Dom. That's not the best of the videos. I was having trouble getting into YouTube since they changed their format. Been a while since I've downloaded videos.
Rg
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Checked the mulberries this morning and here starting to drop. So....I'm ready. Spent some time tying flies today, got the big rod set up...I'm ready to rock and roll.
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Several mulberry flies. Foam, estaz, and even osme mop flies. Never tried them but I thought ..." what the heck"!
Go the GoPro out today to get reacquainted. Might take a couple trips to get a decent video.
Rg
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No video just yet. Went one for two this morning.
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Big fish though. The net is 24" long....it was probably 28". It's just starting so stay tuned.
Rg
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Nice work Bob. Great looking fish.
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Thanks Bart. It was a beauty for sure. All I could do to land it on my 9 wt.rod. I made up a shorter xxx heavy duty furled leader yesterday. Should make things easier.
My Bride and I are heading to Hemlock Lake for a picnic today. I'm going to check out the carping opportunities for a future trip. I'll be back on the canal in the morning to drop some mulberries.
Finally got the GoPro up and paired with my phone. Had to update the firmware and wifi. What a struggle for a technologically inept old man. Hopefully I can get some decent video.
Rg
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Nice video - thats got to be pretty exciting ! It reminds me that when I was much younger there were some big lake suckers in the lake we have our camp on, and they used to spawn in a little brook trout tributary you could jump over. In the "bigger" pools there would be up to a dozen of them or more. They were super spooky and 1 of us would get down stream in the shallows and the other guy would get above the pools to chase them down stream - the water was so shallow their backs were exposed as they went from pool to pool. The guy in the shallows would try to grab them as they rushed by - wicked fun. The biggest I got was 31". They aren't as thick bodied as the carp but are still a handful at that size. We missed a lot more than we caught and mostly just got pretty wet from all the splashing..... hahaha
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Thanks Bart. It was a beauty for sure. All I could do to land it on my 9 wt.rod. I made up a shorter xxx heavy duty furled leader yesterday. Should make things easier.
My Bride and I are heading to Hemlock Lake for a picnic today. I'm going to check out the carping opportunities for a future trip. I'll be back on the canal in the morning to drop some mulberries.
Finally got the GoPro up and paired with my phone. Had to update the firmware and wifi. What a struggle for a technologically inept old man. Hopefully I can get some decent video.
Rg
Don't feel bad about the technology thing, I struggle as well. I do like home videos though, I've taken a bunch and edited them, then you-tubed them. Fun to watch yourself catch fish on a cold winter's night. Unfortunately, my pc's hard drive crashed a while back and I lost my video editing software so I haven't taken videos in a while. On the other hand, my son's (the younger generation) are pretty good at it and have produced some good ones. Looking forward to the mulberry hatch video. No pressure. ;D
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No takers this morning. Cold front probably has them in the shallows. GoPro worked great though. I'm heading for the creek later and will try for some video of creek carp on the fly.
Rg
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I had trouble catching fish yesterday too! 3 hours before a hit. YIKES. :( :( :(
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They were sleeping in the stream too. Literally suspended and drifting backwards with the current.
We'll see what happens tomorrow morning.
Rg
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Skipped boating this morning and went to the creek. There were already 4 trailers at the launch when I finished my walk around 5:30.
Caught a beautiful mirror on a corn fly with my 10' 6 wt. Had the GoPro and thought I was capturing the whole fight. Got home and downloaded .........nothing!😡😡😡
Somehow I must have shut the camera off. Very aggravating to say the least. This better be a short learning curve or it's going to be recording in some very deep water somewhere.
Rg
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That's happened to me too. I have the older "silver" version and you don't know how it went until you get home. My son's have the blacks, they are more sophisticated.
Congrats on the corn fly catch.
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Thanks Bart. I still don't know how I didn't that other than I was pretty keyed up for the catch. Mine is the Hero 3+ silver. Takes great videos...if the operator pays attention.
I'll be back at the mulberries on Monday. We're supposed to get some decent rains tomorrow so Sunday could be another good day for the creek. It's so gin clear right now you need to be invisible not to spook a feeding pod of big carp.
Rg
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Headed for the creek with my 10' 6wt. this morning. The creek was up about 8" with all of last nights rain and riled up. Chummed a little corn in front of me and they came in on a mission. This one was about 24" and I'd guess 8 lbs or so.
I'm still learning how to edit these videos so my apologies for the amateur look.
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Enjoy!
rg
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Great one Bob. And the video was just fine..
Is that a rod you built?
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Thanks Dom.
Yes it is. An IM 6 blank. A very sweet fly rod.
Wish I'd have remembered to turn on the camera for the second one. It hit, made a right turn and screamed upstream. Broke off 14.4 lb leader.
I'll be back at the mulberry drop tomorrow morning. Hopefully I can get some more video.
Rg
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Great job Bob, fighting the carp and filming it!I wouldn't trust myself getting a carp on a fly rod!
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Oh...we can hook you up a safety harness if necessary.
I've been puttering around with a DIY carp Rod Pod for a couple weeks.
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I made it from an easel I picked up at Goodwill for a couple bucks. Bought a set of bite alarms and started playing. It's super adjustable for height, length and alignment. I'm hoping to give it a test run tomorrow......after I get through tossing mulberry flies at the carp.
I've got my eye on a couple 12' rods and baitrunner reels.......soon!
Think I'm becoming obsessed with carp.
Rg
Rg
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Think I'm becoming obsessed with carp.
Rg
Rg
I don't know about Carp but you are obsessed! Lol.
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Nice vid rg little guy got a decent carp also wasn't on a fly rod but he used my small ice jigging rod with 4lb test took him an hour and 5 minutes to land but he landed it
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Berries are dropping in Syracuse. Just saw a big woodchuck hoovering a bunch up on a sidewalk as I drove in to office at 5am. Early riser.
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Managed to hook one this morning. Broke me off in the trees. Must have been 6 squirrels in the trees chowing down the berries.
Might go back and test the new rod pod.
Rg
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Went back with the rod pod and caught these two slugs.
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The first one was huge. Maybe my best ever. All of 32" and very heavy. The second one took me into the weeds after almost tangling in the other line. I had all I could do to hold on to it while trying to reel in the other line.
The method feeders surely do work. The hair rigs hooked each fish in the lower lip when they took the bait.
Fun stuff!
Rg
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Nice ones Bob... :thumbup_smilie:
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I'm heading out in the early morning equipped for both types of fishing. It'll save me a trip back later. Besides, gotta head to the driving range with my neighbor when I get home. He retired recently and wants to play golf. Should be interesting on all fronts.
Rg