50 + fow. It's a pain to get the rigs down to the bottom and feel a bite unless they really pound it. And everyone you bring up that deep has there are bladder sticking out their mouth so you have to keep all of them or you're wasting fish me personally I don't mess with them beyond 30 foot of water
I did some perch fizzing experiments several years ago. caught fizzed and put in fish tank. couple died in first 24hr 2 more lasted 2 days and the rest lived. I fizzed them threw belly. now I see people are fizzing them threw the mouth. maybe the new way is better?not a fizzing fan either.