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Title: First time striper fishing
Post by: ICEHOLE on Jun 17, 2017, 05:39 AM
Thanks to Xjbob99s invite on the "nauti lady" on Thursday I got to hook up to my first stripers. Water was super calm most of the day. Sand eels everywhere and lots of fish breaking. Was really cool to see!
Bob landed the most and the biggest fish of the day. Some nice fish caught! My first striper was small and my second and third a little more respectable. Pretty sure I'm in the market for a surf cast set up now 😁
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Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: stripernut on Jun 17, 2017, 06:00 AM
I aways said, stripers ruined me for fresh water, Bonito and Albacore ruined me for stripers and Blue Fin Tuna ruined me for everything. Now when you go out and do it all with a fly rod, you will truly be ruined!

Congrats on your first striper and a new adventure!
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Eastciderida on Jun 17, 2017, 06:08 AM
Haven't fresh water fished since I got my kayak. Stripers are fun can't wait for false albies
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: bigbellybilly on Jun 17, 2017, 06:40 AM
congrats and looked like a nice calm day
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: fishercat on Jun 17, 2017, 07:32 AM
Congrats on your first Striper.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 17, 2017, 08:18 AM
Congrats Matt.  Now when you are ready for your first canal bass shoot me a pm and we will get it done.  (I promise they are more fun than boat fish) 
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: stripernut on Jun 17, 2017, 09:22 AM
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Now when you are ready for your first canal bass shoot me a pm and we will get it done.  (I promise they are more fun than boat fish)

Don't miss out on an offer like that...

I will say, having many, many hours of fishing both boat and shore, I like boat fishing far more than fishing from shore (also more fun)... Far too many times, I (and many others) have sat on a shore (including the canal) and had to settle for watching breaking fish that no caster could reach... Fishing from a boat also includes the ability to get away from the crowds and that alone make it better (at least for me)... In the end, it comes down to personal taste, for me, give me the freedom of a boat!
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: manitron on Jun 17, 2017, 09:36 AM
Congratulations. Pays to have good friends like xjbob.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 17, 2017, 10:02 AM
Don't miss out on an offer like that...

I will say, having many, many hours of fishing both boat and shore, I like boat fishing far more than fishing from shore (also more fun)... Far too many times, I (and many others) have sat on a shore (including the canal) and had to settle for watching breaking fish that no caster could reach... Fishing from a boat also includes the ability to get away from the crowds and that alone make it better (at least for me)... In the end, it comes down to personal taste, for me, give me the freedom of a boat!

I do both!  Time and place for each...and canal wise, jigging always wins.  Past 8 years the topwater bite continues to decline. There's adventure to be had either way when stripers are involved!  Same offer to you Alan!
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: ICEHOLE on Jun 17, 2017, 10:59 AM
Don't miss out on an offer like that...

I will say, having many, many hours of fishing both boat and shore, I like boat fishing far more than fishing from shore (also more fun)... Far too many times, I (and many others) have sat on a shore (including the canal) and had to settle for watching breaking fish that no caster could reach... Fishing from a boat also includes the ability to get away from the crowds and that alone make it better (at least for me)... In the end, it comes down to personal taste, for me, give me the freedom of a boat!

Just have to save up for a nice set up. if i get a surf cast set up, i want it to last me a lifetime! I admit i know nothing about, but still want a  Van Staal reel. What size rod would be best suited for  the canal?
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Baitbucket on Jun 17, 2017, 05:00 PM
Just have to save up for a nice set up. if i get a surf cast set up, i want it to last me a lifetime! I admit i know nothing about, but still want a  Van Staal reel. What size rod would be best suited for  the canal?

Matt, I know many of the surf guys use Van Staal reels due to being sealed and corrosion resistance. You can literally reel them under water. That being said, if you dont intend to wade into the surf and take waves, there are much better casting/smoother reels out there.

Congrats on the stripers by the way.

PS: I forget what kayak you have, but that is a great option as well.

Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 17, 2017, 06:53 PM
Just have to save up for a nice set up. if i get a surf cast set up, i want it to last me a lifetime! I admit i know nothing about, but still want a  Van Staal reel. What size rod would be best suited for  the canal?

I have a quest jigging setup.  Custom Rainshadow 6-12oz with a 4500 saltist.  If you were to buy that today it is 365 for the rod from cms in new bedford and 180-200 for the reel.  I've been using that for 6 seasons prior to purchasing the odm and saragosa.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Eastciderida on Jun 18, 2017, 08:47 AM
Time to come hit the river on the kayak caught 8 last night
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: ICEHOLE on Jun 18, 2017, 10:17 AM
Matt, I know many of the surf guys use Van Staal reels due to being sealed and corrosion resistance. You can literally reel them under water. That being said, if you dont intend to wade into the surf and take waves, there are much better casting/smoother reels out there.

Congrats on the stripers by the way.

PS: I forget what kayak you have, but that is a great option as well.


I have a wilderness sytems ride 135...older version without the new style seats
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Time to come hit the river on the kayak caught 8 last night

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Merrimack? I am not sure how confident i am on the salt and a kayak...ive only been into it a few years, and while i have lots of hours and my kayak is super stable i still get nervous when a boat makes a big wake near me. White knuckled while fishing might ruin the fun
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Baitbucket on Jun 18, 2017, 10:35 AM
I have a wilderness sytems ride 135...older version without the new style seats

That yak it more than capable of handling the salt. Joppa flats is a great place to start.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Eastciderida on Jun 18, 2017, 11:46 AM
Providence River plenty safe out there fish incoming to slack tide no problem nothing like the Merrimack nice calm water when no wind still decent with winds up to 10mph
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Jschumacher on Jun 18, 2017, 08:06 PM
Nice job Matt. Van Staal reels might be a bit pricy for a first surf setup. I have 3 setups right now. 1 with a Saragosa 10000 1 with a Saragosa 8000 and a 6000 Dawia Emblem Pro. The older model when they were the better. Good affordable 1st rods The Airwave or the Temple Fork Outfitters are a good choice. If jigging is your joice get something rated to at least 10oz.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: xjbob99 on Jun 19, 2017, 07:25 AM
couple of pics to add, pretty sure that was a tall ship heading out of cape cod cay to boston. cool to see. also NOAA said less than 1 foot all day. got half way through the bay on the way back and there was 3 footers pretty stacked. looked at the forecast at the ramp and of course small craft advisory. have to always be prepared and respect the Atlantic. never know what will change.

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Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Knot there yet on Jun 19, 2017, 07:36 AM
 Gateway drug that first one.
Congratulations welcome to the addiction. Many ways to do it all great. Lots of people will tell you lots of things. You'll have to decide which techniques you choose to pursue. You can and will spend lots of $$$ so try as many as you can before you commit to just one or two. If your thinking already a van staal you got $$. What ever you need is two of everything you buy including two van staals. Every plug you buy get two. Trust me on this one. If you don't have a back up for  everything it will break or get lost when you need it most.
 Take a couple charted form the true professional you'll learn 10x what you'll learn on the beach Ask lots of questions your paying them for the education.The good guides are the professors of the fishery. People tend to think that $600 charters are measured by what you catch. It's about what you catch (learn) from them that makes it a bargain trust me.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: westernmas on Jun 19, 2017, 08:08 AM
Nice job Matt. Van Staal reels might be a bit pricy for a first surf setup. I have 3 setups right now. 1 with a Saragosa 10000 1 with a Saragosa 8000 and a 6000 Dawia Emblem Pro. The older model when they were the better. Good affordable 1st rods The Airwave or the Temple Fork Outfitters are a good choice. If jigging is your joice get something rated to at least 10oz.

Sound advice.  I see no need for a Van Staal with the other options out there.

I chucked eels at the Ditch on Friday and Saturday night.  Missed the good tide on Friday but hit it right on Saturday.  I ended up catching some type of juvenile cod or pollock but my eel was bigger than the fish that I caught.  I heard there was a bunch of action Saturday morning but you've got to be at the right place at the right time and it didn't happen for me.  There will be many more chance though.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 19, 2017, 07:17 PM
I still think its early for eels but know guys have caught.  As for the tide, I dont think there is a good or bad one.  Its a matter of timing in each tide vs the spot your fishing.  I cant say one tide there is better than the next based off thousands of hours spent.  This includes the breaking tides that everyone likes.  Once you learn some holes you can catch almost every time out.  I think I am going this weekend. 
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: SalmonAndStriper Stalker on Jun 19, 2017, 07:47 PM
have been fishing my vsx 250 for 3 years and it is an amazing reel. you get what you pay for with van staal. i wouldnt trade it for the world. the only reason why i got a van staal was the durability of the reel. i have buddys who have been beating the **** out of theirs for 15 years with barley any service and they are still working like new. the only learning curve is bailless but it is not that hard to learn. $800 may seem a little steep but i am expecting to have the reel the rest of my life so it is an investment well worth it in my eyes.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: ICEHOLE on Jun 19, 2017, 08:48 PM
have been fishing my vsx 250 for 3 years and it is an amazing reel. you get what you pay for with van staal. i wouldnt trade it for the world. the only reason why i got a van staal was the durability of the reel. i have buddys who have been beating the **** out of theirs for 15 years with barley any service and they are still working like new. the only learning curve is bailless but it is not that hard to learn. $800 may seem a little steep but i am expecting to have the reel the rest of my life so it is an investment well worth it in my eyes.

Wow I really know nothing! Had never heard of bailless doing reels until now. So I watched a quick vieo and concept makes sense and easy enough. I can see myself getting goofed up on the retrieve getting used to it.
I know a couple people who say the same about van staal. I just figured I'm young enough to make an investment on s omthing I want to last all or most of my life..idk if that's possible..i would think VS has the best chance
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Eastciderida on Jun 19, 2017, 09:26 PM
Recently saw a post about a guy on the canal hooking into a van stall reel looked like it was in there for awhile thing still worked other then the gears being a little rough. Look into the quantum boca and Cabo reels know a guy that has put an older quantum iron through hell and abuse and has never had a problem. I got a pair of quantum boca servicing on my striper rods love them. Couldn't see spending that much on a reel and somehow getting it dumped off the side of my yak and the leash breaks off
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: Baitbucket on Jun 20, 2017, 05:42 AM
Wow I really know nothing! Had never heard of bailless doing reels until now. So I watched a quick vieo and concept makes sense and easy enough. I can see myself getting goofed up on the retrieve getting used to it.
I know a couple people who say the same about van staal. I just figured I'm young enough to make an investment on s omthing I want to last all or most of my life..idk if that's possible..i would think VS has the best chance

VS Reels are a very nice reel. But as has been said. Their real value comes from being fully sealed be being made of all corrosion resistant materials. They are made that way for the Surf guys who are constantly getting hit by waves/reeling under water.

It it were me Matt, I would look into the long cast surf reels. Shimano and Daiwa both make nice ones.
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jun 20, 2017, 10:00 AM
If the plan is to purchase a reel for canal there are more practial choices than the VS.  You want high retreive speed at least 40" a handle turn or you will fatigue from reeling in miles of jig casts! VS has its place but like all other reels it isnt perfect.  It will last if you take care of it and all those orings!  For what its worth, Zebco owns VS and the reels are made in China now...I fished with a VS and Zeebass, both are nice but you can accomplish the same with a 300 shimano for a few seasons if you care for it.

Keep in mind the reel seems like the highest price piece in the surfcasting equation but I can tell you the plugs will bleed you dry if you let them...custom rods, plug bags, waders...it can be an expensive game if you want it to be.  
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: manitron on Jun 20, 2017, 05:02 PM
Great work  and stellar pics xjbob!
Title: Re: First time striper fishing
Post by: SalmonAndStriper Stalker on Jun 20, 2017, 08:03 PM
saw this online and thought it was pretty amazing.