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MFF US Northeast => Massachusetts => Topic started by: lowaccord66 on Feb 19, 2020, 11:10 AM
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Doing big things for this season....notice something missing from the back of my boat?
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Someone happily took the 140 looper off my hands. (Hours after it was posted!) Soon a shiny new 25hp tohatsu with a 9.8 kicker will be sitting back there. That plus existing ipilot and panoptix means the lakers and salmon are in trouble.
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whats a looper
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A looper is an evinrude v4 outboard. In this case a 1990 140hp.
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I know you are excited.
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I know you are excited.
I am. I was boat shopping but now I am not. My buddy is helping me with this endeavor and we agreed if he uses my boat for quabbin i can use his crestliner elsewhere.
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If I remember right you had nothing but problems with that old engine. I would dare say the trout are in trouble when the season opens.
Have you used the panoptix on the boat to target cold water fish much yet, and if so what do you think?
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If I remember right you had nothing but problems with that old engine. I would dare say the trout are in trouble when the season opens.
Have you used the panoptix on the boat to target cold water fish much yet, and if so what do you think?
To be fair the outboard worked amazing until I ran the gas too low and clogged the carbs and then I found out through fixing things on my own the tune up I paid for was never actually done...(avoid Suburban marine in Meriden CT)
As for the panoptix, I have and it works great. (Using the ice bundle)
Used it a lot on champlain during the summer to jig big lakers.
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Congratulations on your new acquisitions!
(And I didn't even know you had a boat). :P
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I have had one for a while Jim and had some amazing adventures with it. Converting it to a quabbin boat makes the most sense. The cost to repower to a similar hp that it had was more expensive than buying another boat. Being that I love that boat this was the best way to save it!
More updates as we continue to build it out as the ultimate quabbin boat.
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I am not trying to sound like a jerk but why put a kicker on a boat that has a 25 HP on it? That 25 HP should get you to an appropriate trolling speed and burn hardly any gas. The only logic to the kicker is that it will get you back to the ramp should the main engine fail. That should not be much of an issue with the new motor. Personally I would save the cash on the kicker and get the additional weight off of the transom. Now if you were running a significantly larger main engine (not allowed on quabbin I know) then we would be having a different discussion.
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Solid feedback for sure. I already owned the 9.8 prior to removing the 140! The other thing is its tricky to get that 25 to troll in the lower range of speeds that we sometimes need. Especially if we are towing bait! The other side of things is keeping idle hours off the 25. Its gonna get its arse kicked pushing a 19'6 boat at max rpm all the time.
With that said if any quabbin experts have thoughts on how to prop that 25 for max speed I am all ears. (The upside is it will be flashed to 30hp)
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The kicker I run on my 20’ aluminum Lund Fisherman is a 15 HP merc 4 stroke. I believe I am running a 3 blade 8 pitch prop and it will basically rev out and push the boat about 6 MPH. Hope that might help you out or at least give you a starting point.
That quabbin fishery looks pretty cool. IF I lived closer I would set up a boat like you are doing!
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quabbin hp restrictions.....* FOUR-STROKE ENGINES - Private boats with four-stroke engines are limited to one-half the BIA or OBC hp rating of the
boat up to a maximum of 25 hp* Private boats may use two motors provided the total combined hp does not exceed the hp limits above.
* Combined four-stroke and two-stroke engines may not exceed 20 hp total. Looks like you'll have to leave the kicker home.
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Plans may be changing a bit as I am headed to look at another boat this week...
In other news the 9.8 pushes the boat a respectable 5.5mph and might end up being the main!
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New boat purchase scheduled for 1pm Saturday. Meanwhile we found someone to trade the 9.8 tohatsu for a 25hp 4 stroke Suzuki. That'll be much better.
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New boat purchase scheduled for 1pm Saturday. Meanwhile we found someone to trade the 9.8 tohatsu for a 25hp 4 stroke Suzuki. That'll be much better.
Nice! What are you getting?
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Nice! What are you getting?
Skeeter 1175 WT. 115 yam 4 stroke efi.
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I hope it works out for you Jon!
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Looks like a bad weather fishing machine! The windshield and canopy are awesome when it’s raining early and late season.
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Looks like a bad weather fishing machine! The windshield and canopy are awesome when it’s raining early and late season.
That was a key consideration. I do a lot of foul weather pike fishing early spring and early winter before ice up.
Question is how to mount riggers on a fiberglass hull?
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Question is how to mount riggers on a fiberglass hull?
Bert's tracks
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Bert's tracks
Thanks Steve will investigate.
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What about a trolling board?
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Best of luck with the new set up!
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Best of luck with the new set up!
Was no good Allen. Abused by the owner. Guy didnt want to put muffs on the Yamaha and fire it up. Asks if I want him to start it dry. Had to walk away.
Found a 2004 lund tyee 20' I will check out next weekend.
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For me, the Lund is a better choice...
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I like lunds but they are not cheap. Looking at a stratos tomorrow.
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Bought it pending a test drive next week.
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my boat is all sealed and ready to go. just need to rewire the lights and livewell and I'm ready to go. downriggers and planer board mast are all installed.
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my boat is all sealed and ready to go. just need to rewire the lights and livewell and I'm ready to go. downriggers and planer board mast are all installed.
The wash for my old boat is scheduled. Buddy is working hard to get the throttle and shift cables taken care of on the new 25.
Already has ipilot. Debating the spend on a pro troll controller or not....
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Already has ipilot. Debating the spend on a pro troll controller or not....
honestly I dont think it's worth it unless you were like guiding multiple times a week or something. I can tune my speed pretty easily and it should be a lot easier for you with a underpowered boat.
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Ya that's a good point and quite honestly once the lakers group up in deep water I will be hammering them jigging.
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I am a BIG fan of an electronic anchor, it is a great tool for jigging lakers...
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I am a BIG fan of an electronic anchor, it is a great tool for jigging lakers...
One of the best tools in my opinion. I am biased as my pb laker was landed jigging champlain while on spot lock.
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Boat 1 is complete and ready for the opener. Wash is April 4th.
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One of the best tools in my opinion. I am biased as my pb laker was landed jigging champlain while on spot lock.
It’s the bees knees. First day we used it on our boat, my dad got his PB and it’s also the biggest fish landed in our boat so far (hope you don’t mind some fish pics in the thread):
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The other features it has are sweet to. We use it to troll seen smelts early in the year at like 1mph, and the “track” feature is awesome when your banging donuts on a small pond, or working structure back and forth. Takes some playing around to figure out, but It’s sweet cruising in battery power at sunrise. Zen like even.
I also bought it after catching my PB laker on champ with a guide who sang its praises. I bought one when I got home.
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Love it Z.
Heres mine.
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I want it for my boat but would have to take it off for my salt excursions. sharps can vouch for how hard of a beating my 14ft sylvan takes. punching it thru 3 to 4ft swells. would break the trolling motor.
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I want it for my boat but would have to take it off for my salt excursions. sharps can vouch for how hard of a beating my 14ft sylvan takes. punching it thru 3 to 4ft swells. would break the trolling motor.
I think you'd be fine. They make a riptide version for salt water (its on my quabbin boat).
I had beat the piss out of it on champlain in similar conditions....we broke a rod once pounding in the waves but never the trolling motor.
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I often see braces put in to protect the shaft from excessive banging.
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I often see braces put in to protect the shaft from excessive banging.
My buddy Kyle (same one that helped me get my old boat ready for quabbin) made one out of pvc pipe. Works well.
I'm more excited to jig there than trolling although the salmon are fun.
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my boat will be sealed till the late may seabass opener. could care less about the quabbin at that point as salt ramps up. wish I had a dedicated boat for fall but it is what it is. I'll be mostly after salmon.
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I want it for my boat but would have to take it off for my salt excursions. sharps can vouch for how hard of a beating my 14ft sylvan takes. punching it thru 3 to 4ft swells. would break the trolling motor.
I think you will be fine. You add that to your boat and you are golden. My PB Largemouth and a ton of smallies would not be possible without it.
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I think you will be fine. You add that to your boat and you are golden. My PB Largemouth and a ton of smallies would not be possible without it.
Cool thing too is 55lb thrust will do fine in fresh water for that sized boat. Even with some current. It held my 20'er well on champlain.
The new boat I am going 36v and 110 because I found a deal for one.
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I was looking at an 80lb thrust. i fish in places with 5 knots of current and it would be awesome to anchor up and drift a live mack back into the rip
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I was looking at an 80lb thrust. i fish in places with 5 knots of current and it would be awesome to anchor up and drift a live mack back into the rip
That and trolling eels slow in flats at night too. I think 80lb will do it. They have a video of a big flats boat holding in 7 knots but not sure how much thrust it was.
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That and trolling eels slow in flats at night too. I think 80lb will do it. They have a video of a big flats boat holding in 7 knots but not sure how much thrust it was.
hopefully it will because I dont have room for a 36v system to run a 110 on my boat. 24v would be my max.
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Got my boat out of storage last week. Just got the tune up kit in as well.
Im going to spend more time jigging up lakers and smallies. Trolling is just to boring.
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My wash was canceled. They are unsure when they will reschedule and if and when they will open Quabbin...
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debating whether or not to break my seal.... it's being broken for the seabass opener in mid may so might just break it now seeing that the Q might not open up before that....
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Watershed Fishing Update: No decision has yet been made about Opening Day for fishing at Quabbin Reservoir (scheduled for April 18) and Wachusett/Sudbury Reservoirs (scheduled for April 4). Updated information will be posted on this website.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/quabbin-reservoir-fishing-guide
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Watershed Fishing Update: No decision has yet been made about Opening Day for fishing at Quabbin Reservoir (scheduled for April 18) and Wachusett/Sudbury Reservoirs (scheduled for April 4). Updated information will be posted on this website.
https://www.mass.gov/info-details/quabbin-reservoir-fishing-guide
If they open and I cant get a wash I am going to lose my mind.
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If they open and I cant get a wash I am going to lose my mind.
Hi Jon,
I sent you a PM on the DR mounts. If / when they open and your boat isn't washed I will get you aboard mine. I'm committed to my buddy opening day after that you're next.
I've been chasing stockies just to scratch the itch.
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Hi Jon,
I sent you a PM on the DR mounts. If / when they open and your boat isn't washed I will get you aboard mine. I'm committed to my buddy opening day after that you're next.
I've been chasing stockies just to scratch the itch.
Thank you Sully. I spent a few grand to get the old boat ready for quabbin and now this...shame is I dont think 25hp is enough for ontario or Id tow there and troll.
New boats starter went Saturday adding to my misery!
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I 25 hp might be enough if you are riding close to shore and pick a good weekend. But NH has good places that are not so bad after a little work. There are even some hike in laker places you can camp over night via kayak.
I am hesitant to take any boat that makes under 20mph out on big water...
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Thank you Sully. I spent a few grand to get the old boat ready for quabbin and now this...shame is I dont think 25hp is enough for ontario or Id tow there and troll.
New boats starter went Saturday adding to my misery!
you could always go to champlain but you may have to quarantine for 14 days first....
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you could always go to champlain but you may have to quarantine for 14 days first....
Ill be there and no I won't quarantine.