Thanks for the reply. Moved back to Mi last fall after a long time gone and into a new area. Not sure the population of gills in the pond on the property we bought so I am going to try to get a rough estimate when they get on the beds. Previous owner thought they may have fished them out but I caught and released a few last fall and had a few on the camera over the winter. Bass numbers seem to be ok and size is decent so hopefully the gills are not hurting either. going to head out to a few local lakes in the next couple weeks and do some learning and searching for some gills and maybe try for a few crappie also.