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MyFishFinder By Species => Bass => Topic started by: Steelhead_Hunter88 on Apr 19, 2009, 02:52 PM
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Ive fished this pond a few times its a 80 achre. Thers big bass in there ive caught a few on zoom rubber flooks. But the pond is very vegetated wondering if you guys have any good techniques.
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Just use a 3/8 to 5/8 punce sinker Carolina or texas style to punch through the weeds. Depending on the weeds you will either need to increase your test to pull out of the weeds or decrease your test to slide through it.
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if it mats on top, it's hard to beat a rat!
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weedless frog. forget who makes them but their soft bodied and when the bass hits he gets hooked
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Scum Frog across the top or a Green Pumpkin Senko !
Both killers for bass in heavy vegitation .
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Those ideas all sound great gonna have to try um. I also thought about tryin a weedless jig tipped with a minnow.
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a norman weed walker such an awesome lure
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A plastic nightcrawler with a "twister" tail rigged Texas style with no weight. Either run it across the weeds/mats and let the tail do its work or take it tothe edge and twitch the crawler. It works!
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A: surface lure or 1 minus crank for submergent veg
B: Texas rigged plastics
C: Spinnerbaits (man I do I love spinnerbaits) ;D
D: Put live bait in the deeper pockets
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Thers some spots that are vegetated some areas have lil five feet wide holes were thers no weeds. i thought maybe jig a minnow. Does it work good to run frogs over the weeds it wont get stuck.
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Just make sure you have heavy enough gear to rip the fish out when they take it.
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Tube bait with offset hook rigged weedless. Slowly pull over the surfaceso it will drop into openings. 20 lb test line.
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well i got 10 pound cajun line i use that for steelhead an salmon an cuaght many over ten pounds with it.
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Go with at least 20lb, I like braid because it will cut the weeds. If you were only fighting the fish 4lb would be fine, but you also need to rip the fish out of the weeds. Your drag does you no good when you have a fish wound up in matted weeds, the only way to get the fish out is with brute strength. I have pulled in many bass in a mass of weeds as big as me. It is pretty funny when you don't even know how big the fish is until you start pulling the weeds off. ;)
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My reel says up to ten pound line my diawa an gander mountain reel
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My reel says up to ten pound line my diawa an gander mountain reel
braided line has a much smaller diameter... i don't know exactly but i think even 60 lb braided has the diameter of like 10lb test mono... and it casts 10 times further
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well im gonna have to go with ten pound cajun line an trilene on my other pole. To soon to change now. Im gonna try a frog over the weeds an jig a minnow maybe throw a texas rig worm. Gonna have a pole out for blue gil to.
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So we went out to the pond. To choppy to go on the pond fast winds so we took the boat in the lil creek across from the pond. Threw a texas worm got a couple bass. Got one on a mepps number 4 spinner. Got one on a minnow jig. An my biggest 4 or 5 pounds caught that bad boy on my light action blue gill rod with 1 inch worm under a bobber. I see my bobber go down im like ok nice blue gil i set the hook an it was on like crazy. also got quite a few blue gil caught to.
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hey you caught fish all that matters
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a worm with no weight fished over the veg. and let it drop down in holes where there is no veg. caught some pigs that way. ::)
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braided line has a much smaller diameter... i don't know exactly but i think even 60 lb braided has the diameter of like 10lb test mono... and it casts 10 times further
i dont know about casting 10 times further i think i would out cast you with mono or floro.
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i like zoom 6in super salty fluke rigged weedless like no weight unless there is a wind and then i wrap thin lead wire around the hook around 5 wraps from the eye of the hook give it twitces and watch em splash also like bass pro shops tournament series super shadee shad cause of the paddle tail no need for weight with that tho cause it has so much action.....as for colors white usually works best for me but anything light is nice
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senko senko senko
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i dont know about casting 10 times further i think i would out cast you with mono or floro.
if you can cast 60 lb mono further than 60 lb braided then your name must be david copperfield ::) There's no comparison
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if you can cast 60 lb mono further than 60 lb braided then your name must be david copperfield ::) There's no comparison
Mwaaahaahaaahaa...Oh I definitely can! Mono has more weight then braid. Your 60# braid will get you about 6 feet casting distance. My 60# mono will get me about 16 feet casting distance. No comparion, period. ;D
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Mwaaahaahaaahaa...Oh I definitely can! Mono has more weight then braid. Your 60# braid will get you about 6 feet casting distance. My 60# mono will get me about 16 feet casting distance. No comparion, period. ;D
it's apparent you've never used braid. please either buy it and use it or even do a google search before making yourself look like more of a fool.
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it's apparent you've never used braid. please either buy it and use it or even do a google search before making yourself look like more of a fool.
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Apperance can be deceiving...the only fools are the one who thinks that braid will outcast mono in every situation.
You think that physics has absolutely nothing to do with casting distance. Sure you can outcast your lures on braid...but at what weight, what lure, what braid test, and which reel?
To think at a 60# braid with about 12# mono equivalent will outcast a line of same diameter to argue a very narrow and limited point to compare against 60# mono. Please. ::)
I just gave a scenario to disprove you and you come back with a foolish comment like that. Please....10 times further with braid = 10 times the foolish comment. :D :D You can't even get twice the distance with braid...fact, period.
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ok, so clarify what you are talking about. i said 60 lb braided will cast further than 60 lb mono. You said this was untrue, though it is obviously true. Say for instance that 60 lb braid is equivalent to 16lb mono in diameter. I did not say 60 lb braid would outcast 16 lb mono. I compared lb to lb, not diameter to diameter. If you're gonna change the parameters of you're argument please clarify that. Because this sentence makes no sense...
To think at a 60# braid with about 12# mono equivalent will outcast a line of same diameter to argue a very narrow and limited point to compare against 60# mono. Please. ::)
Put in some commas or periods so it makes sense. I don't know what you're attempting to say
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if you can cast 60 lb mono further than 60 lb braided then your name must be david copperfield ::) There's no comparison
You said this and I kind of chuckled to myself and substantiate a scenario that 60 lb mono will cast further than 60 lb braid. There was no parameters of lure weight involved. Yeah, casting just the mono line itself will get more distance than braid. No magic involved. Try casting a 1/32 ounce lure and the 60lb mono will get more distance. Try casting a 1 ounce lure and maybe 60# braid will get more distance. Try casting a 6 oz lure on a 10 foot pole and maybe mono will get more distance.
Besides when it comes down to line comparison, you ought to know better than to compare mfg lb on package label to another mfg lb on their own package label. Look at Trilene XL compared to Trilene XT. Of course they have different characteristics, but their line diameter compared to each other of same listed test lb are also different. So even when comparing 60 lb mono to 60 lb braid, you just gave parameters where the weight of the line is very heavy in comparision. Even with 12 lb mono is heavier in mass compared to 60 lb braid. However those two lines have similar diameter. Besides mfg makes a braid to mono equivalent comparison in reference to diameter.
Furthermore casting distance is governed by order of lure weight, rod length, line, reel, spool weight, then bearings. Of course the individual skill has a lot to do with it too. In real world application you also have to deal with the environment like wind direction and speed. Braid is heavily affected by wind. Mono vs braid in this scenario, mono will be favored for cast distance. Until you hit the threshold of where weight is so heavy that line drag is basically not able to make enough of an influence. With no weight, same rod length, same reel, mono will cast further than braid.
And don't even go to punctuation argument...it just shows you've got even less credibility. You didn't even capitalized the fist letter of your sentence. I'm not the one who started to call others fools, when making such a gross negligent argument. Besides, it's not fair to compare 100 yrds of braid on a reel to about 50 yrds of mono on same reel. At this point we're probably talking baitcasting reels instead of spinning reels.
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how bout we help this guys catch fish in the cabbage filled pond and worry bout casting your nylon rope-like line on another thread who is casting 60lb line n e way..... maybe a musky hunter or something...... i cast 6lb for every fish i go after what in the world would i need 60 for its all in the drag baby run a shimano spirex 2500 wiht a st croix rod get one and youll never want another setup
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I dont have the Most experience but last my friends private pond has alot of weed beds in it. And the bass KILL the spinnerbaits. good fishing to ya!
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You said this and I kind of chuckled to myself and substantiate a scenario that 60 lb mono will cast further than 60 lb braid. There was no parameters of lure weight involved. Yeah, casting just the mono line itself will get more distance than braid. No magic involved. Try casting a 1/32 ounce lure and the 60lb mono will get more distance. Try casting a 1 ounce lure and maybe 60# braid will get more distance. Try casting a 6 oz lure on a 10 foot pole and maybe mono will get more distance.
Besides when it comes down to line comparison, you ought to know better than to compare mfg lb on package label to another mfg lb on their own package label. Look at Trilene XL compared to Trilene XT. Of course they have different characteristics, but their line diameter compared to each other of same listed test lb are also different. So even when comparing 60 lb mono to 60 lb braid, you just gave parameters where the weight of the line is very heavy in comparision. Even with 12 lb mono is heavier in mass compared to 60 lb braid. However those two lines have similar diameter. Besides mfg makes a braid to mono equivalent comparison in reference to diameter.
Furthermore casting distance is governed by order of lure weight, rod length, line, reel, spool weight, then bearings. Of course the individual skill has a lot to do with it too. In real world application you also have to deal with the environment like wind direction and speed. Braid is heavily affected by wind. Mono vs braid in this scenario, mono will be favored for cast distance. Until you hit the threshold of where weight is so heavy that line drag is basically not able to make enough of an influence. With no weight, same rod length, same reel, mono will cast further than braid.
And don't even go to punctuation argument...it just shows you've got even less credibility. You didn't even capitalized the fist letter of your sentence. I'm not the one who started to call others fools, when making such a gross negligent argument. Besides, it's not fair to compare 100 yrds of braid on a reel to about 50 yrds of mono on same reel. At this point we're probably talking baitcasting reels instead of spinning reels.
Wrong
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Blocked... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
:nono: you flaming me!
:D
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Well its obviously useless. Nothing other than one word needed to be said all along... wrooooong. But, good luck fishing. I'll be casting my 50 lb braided 75+yds for stripers like I do every other year and watch the fools on shore with 30 lb mono only casting out 40 feet.
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Useless... :D
You can't cast braid. I told you that. You can cast a lure with braid. :nono:
How'd this get thread gone this far? :o
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I will bet you could get about 10 to 20 yards further if you put like 20# mono leader of about 15-20 feet onto that 50# braid of yours.
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Useless... :D
You can't cast braid. I told you that. You can cast a lure with braid. :nono:
How'd this get thread gone this far? :o
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I will bet you could get about 10 to 20 yards further if you put like 20# mono leader of about 15-20 feet onto that 50# braid of yours.
nobody fishing braid without a leader... ::)