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Title: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: eyehi on Jun 14, 2011, 10:55 PM
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anyone post comments about the proposed changes on the dec website ? i am against the 1 walleye on the st lawrence river change. protect the spawning females with a slot limit dont ruin the hole walleye fishing expierience. why would i drive 30 minutes to a river when i can only bring home 1 fish. i see more walleyes caught than pike but no one talks about that.   ::)
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: pikie on Jun 15, 2011, 07:16 AM
I agree, a slot would do a better job.  I'll go post a comment too.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: pikie on Jun 15, 2011, 07:26 AM
[email protected]

with subject "Possible Freshwater Fishing Regulation Changes 2012_GL_06"
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jun 15, 2011, 07:56 AM
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anyone post comments about the proposed changes on the dec website ? i am against the 1 walleye on the st lawrence river change. protect the spawning females with a slot limit dont ruin the hole walleye fishing expierience. why would i drive 30 minutes to a river when i can only bring home 1 fish. i see more walleyes caught than pike but no one talks about that.   ::)
I would Imagine that would effect the charter fishing business also...
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: eyehi on Jun 15, 2011, 08:32 AM
the comment posting period ends this month and the changes would go into effect october 1  :(
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: eyehi on Jun 15, 2011, 08:38 AM
I would Imagine that would effect the charter fishing business also...
the walleye limit is only fron january 1 to march 15 to protect the taking of prespawn females. i do alot of ice fishing and see most people let 6 and 8 pounders go in favor of the smaller fish wich are better eaters. if u still are allowed to keep 1 walleye people will keep the 8 and ten pound fish. with the limit at 3 fish most people only keep large females for wall mounts which they still will do if only allowed 1. never seen anyone with a limit of walleye all over 5 pounds :o
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: fisher7450 on Jun 25, 2011, 05:09 AM
i agree i'm not going to drive all that way for one fish. that puts a hefty price tag onn that fish
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: eyehi on Jun 26, 2011, 08:50 PM
i agree i'm not going to drive all that way for one fish. that puts a hefty price tag onn that fish
hoprfully they dont make the change ;D
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Anchorman on Jun 28, 2011, 06:14 AM
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anyone post comments about the proposed changes on the dec website ? i am against the 1 walleye on the st lawrence river change. protect the spawning females with a slot limit dont ruin the hole walleye fishing expierience. why would i drive 30 minutes to a river when i can only bring home 1 fish. i see more walleyes caught than pike but no one talks about that.   ::)

Not really a big deal. People drive across entire states for 1 steelhead.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Anchorman on Jun 28, 2011, 06:16 AM
i agree i'm not going to drive all that way for one fish. that puts a hefty price tag onn that fish

Yeah, but if that fish was 14 lbs, money probably wouldn't be an object. ;D
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: draketrutta on Jun 28, 2011, 07:59 AM
Not really a big deal. People drive across entire states for 1 steelhead.

Not as much as we use to.

and keeping just 1 fish ain't the reason either.

The SR is turning into a darned Erie Cookie-Cutter stream.
It is getting to the point where it ain't even worth the drive to catch the same 6-8lber over & over again.


Now, the PETA (err, make that LOTAC types) are trying to drop the brown trout limit to 1.

Save the world by ruining a fishery?
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: adkbrookie on Jun 28, 2011, 08:37 AM
Not as much as we use to.

and keeping just 1 fish ain't the reason either.

The SR is turning into a darned Erie Cookie-Cutter stream.
It is getting to the point where it ain't even worth the drive to catch the same 6-8lber over & over again.


Now, the PETA (err, make that LOTAC types) are trying to drop the brown trout limit to 1.

Save the world by ruining a fishery?


with the salmon and lake ontario fishery, near as i can tell it is doing WAY better than just about anything else. if it was up to me i would just leave the regs alone. if it ain't broke don't fix it. and the sea kitten huggers can go, well...
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: draketrutta on Jun 28, 2011, 09:14 AM

with the salmon and lake ontario fishery, near as i can tell it is doing WAY better than just about anything else. if it was up to me i would just leave the regs alone. if it ain't broke don't fix it. and the sea kitten huggers can go, well...

I guess that depends on what you are after...

Me - I'd rather have less fish in the river and have a bona-fide chance at hooking up with a 20lber.

Each year, my passion fades - I have no desire to fish for cookie cutters - along with the shoulder-shoulder sea-kitten lovers.

Different strokes.

Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jun 28, 2011, 04:03 PM
 There is nothing wrong with the Brown trout fishery... This would be a regulation based  purely on peoples attitude and personal feelings about the harvesting of the fish...
   In the 8 hour a-tom-mik challenge 70 boats harvested 1,860 pounds of Brown trout.... I think we need to drop the tributary limit to one fish to provide better opportunities /and angler satisfaction.. GIVE ME A BREAK !!
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: dmntd169 on Jun 28, 2011, 04:23 PM
I guess that depends on what you are after...

Me - I'd rather have less fish in the river and have a bona-fide chance at hooking up with a 20lber.

Each year, my passion fades - I have no desire to fish for cookie cutters - along with the shoulder-shoulder sea-kitten lovers.

Different strokes.



same way I've started to see it  :-\ :-\   why drive 3 hours to fish for 5-6# fish when I know local creeks that can produce rainbows of the same size class an hour from home where I don't have to fish shoulder to shoulder and then have people scream at me if I decide to keep one because they must be endangered because they only stock em by the million  ::) ::)
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: eyehi on Jun 28, 2011, 08:51 PM
Not really a big deal. People drive across entire states for 1 steelhead.
people with better jobs than me
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Anchorman on Jun 29, 2011, 05:35 AM
people with better jobs than me
Or people that can manage their finances better than you.
Theres times i've had to save/budget all year to go on a trip to the cape, and we're talking less than a grand.
It just comes down to priorities, and how bad you want it.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jun 29, 2011, 07:32 AM
Or people that can manage their finances better than you.
Theres times i've had to save/budget all year to go on a trip to the cape, and we're talking less than a grand.
It just comes down to priorities, and how bad you want it.
DID YOU GET TO KEEP ANY FISH ??
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Anchorman on Jun 29, 2011, 09:17 AM
DID YOU GET TO KEEP ANY FISH ??

Just one....... ::)
 Doesn't matter though, even if it were 5 fish, it's still  a dollar chasing a dime, when you average it all out.

Bottom line, how can you justify pulling a boat to the river, gassing it up, or booking a charter, then b***h and gripe about a few fillets........??

I suppose if money was the sole driving force, i'd hit the pasture pond, and catch a bucket of bullheads.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jun 29, 2011, 01:01 PM
Just one....... ::)
 Doesn't matter though, even if it were 5 fish, it's still  a dollar chasing a dime, when you average it all out.

Bottom line, how can you justify pulling a boat to the river, gassing it up, or booking a charter, then b***h and gripe about a few fillets........??

I suppose if money was the sole driving force, i'd hit the pasture pond, and catch a bucket of bullheads.
Because there are many people who Like to eat what they catch. There are many times that it doesn't work out.. but there are many times that it does.... If it cost 30 bucks in gas to drive to the SR... and currently steelhead trout is on sale for 8.99 a pound... you do the math...
The stuff processed in china or Chile probably tastes better anyway.. :sick: :sick: :sick: And walleye.... Can we even buy walleye in the store ??
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Gamma Fish on Jun 29, 2011, 01:07 PM
Because there are many people who Like to eat what they catch. There are many times that it doesn't work out.. but there are many times that it does.... If it cost 30 bucks in gas to drive to the SR... and currently steelhead trout is on sale for 8.99 a pound... you do the math...
The stuff processed in china or Chile probably tastes better anyway.. :sick: :sick: :sick: And walleye.... Can we even buy walleye in the store ??
Only if it's imported from Canada or another state / country where their export is legal  ;)
  Or.......you can just dial up 1-800-POA-CHER and buy all you want  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Prolifter on Jun 29, 2011, 04:34 PM
Because there are many people who Like to eat what they catch. There are many times that it doesn't work out.. but there are many times that it does.... If it cost 30 bucks in gas to drive to the SR... and currently steelhead trout is on sale for 8.99 a pound... you do the math...
The stuff processed in china or Chile probably tastes better anyway.. :sick: :sick: :sick: And walleye.... Can we even buy walleye in the store ??
Because there are many people who Like to eat what they catch. There are many times that it doesn't work out.. but there are many times that it does.... If it cost 30 bucks in gas to drive to the SR... and currently steelhead trout is on sale for 8.99 a pound... you do the math...
The stuff processed in china or Chile probably tastes better anyway.. :sick: :sick: :sick: And walleye.... Can we even buy walleye in the store ??
If you are in Baldwinsville, it'd be worth it for you to drive to the salmon river for a fish, or 2.
 I'm 2+ hrs away, and the 8.99 a lb would be cheaper.
I'd personally prefer perch fillets from the local lake over a steelhead anyhow.
Prolifter
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jun 29, 2011, 10:05 PM
If you are in Baldwinsville, it'd be worth it for you to drive to the salmon river for a fish, or 2.
 I'm 2+ hrs away, and the 8.99 a lb would be cheaper.
I'd personally prefer perch fillets from the local lake over a steelhead anyhow.
Prolifter
If you are fishing for a meal than your correct... and If spending 8.99 on Chinese fish is fine with you.... Great!! My Question is........ If they dropped the limit of perch to one fish would it change your view ?? And Does the process of fishing have any value or do you really like shopping ?   
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: bcons on Jun 30, 2011, 06:11 AM
Wow! now we got someone saying store bought would be cheaper  :o   It almost always is, is that the point of fishing?  I mean between all the gear I have tens of thousands invested, plus bait, replacement tackle, new gadgets & toys, insurance, gas, maintence, license, reg, then of course the time it takes, how much is that worth?  For what I spend as compared to the filets, I could probably hire someone to stay at my place full time to personally care for a Kobe beef cow, and go to the market for me to buy fish.  Again is that the point?  Limits at decent levels is the extra reward for a good day.  My problem is how many fish do you want in the lake? It's not like they're that hard to come by, as long as you don't suck.  Even if they increased numbers and 30+ fish days became common every trip, after 1 or two would you appreciate it?   They can't legislate or regulate success for all, sorry......
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Anchorman on Jun 30, 2011, 09:26 AM
Because there are many people who Like to eat what they catch. There are many times that it doesn't work out.. but there are many times that it does.... If it cost 30 bucks in gas to drive to the SR... and currently steelhead trout is on sale for 8.99 a pound... you do the math...
The stuff processed in china or Chile probably tastes better anyway.. :sick: :sick: :sick: And walleye.... Can we even buy walleye in the store ??
From what I can gather from the OP, this proposed restriction is not statewide, it's just a particular body of water, which I can only assume they're trying to turn into a piece of trophy water. Nothing prevents you from going to Oswego, and limiting out on eyes' there.

The point i'm getting at, is don't whine because you're "paying out the @ss, because the limit is only 1, when the truth is, even if you had 3 fish, you still would be paying out the @ss for them, when it all averages out.
There are 900 other spots in this state to catch table worthy walleyes that don't involve mega-bucks, and i'm sure most of us are within 15 miles of any of these said spots.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: perchice on Jun 30, 2011, 10:19 AM
I know this isn't about fishing, but just another example of whats in store.
http://www.newyorkbowhunters.com/current.html (http://www.newyorkbowhunters.com/current.html)
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jun 30, 2011, 11:18 AM
From what I can gather from the OP, this proposed restriction is not statewide, it's just a particular body of water, which I can only assume they're trying to turn into a piece of trophy water. Nothing prevents you from going to Oswego, and limiting out on eyes' there.

The point i'm getting at, is don't whine because you're "paying out the @ss, because the limit is only 1, when the truth is, even if you had 3 fish, you still would be paying out the @ss for them, when it all averages out.
There are 900 other spots in this state to catch table worthy walleyes that don't involve mega-bucks, and i'm sure most of us are within 15 miles of any of these said spots.
Do you think that the limit will have an effect on the charter captains?
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: Anchorman on Jun 30, 2011, 11:41 AM
Do you think that the limit will have an effect on the charter captains?
Not unless they're running a charter service betwen January, and March on the St. Lawrence.
Just a hunch, but i'm guessing that during this particular timeframe, you'll find most of em' guiding steelies in a driftboat, or the salt flats of Florida.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: eyehi on Jun 30, 2011, 08:56 PM
From what I can gather from the OP, this proposed restriction is not statewide, it's just a particular body of water, which I can only assume they're trying to turn into a piece of trophy water. Nothing prevents you from going to Oswego, and limiting out on eyes' there.

The point i'm getting at, is don't whine because you're "paying out the @ss, because the limit is only 1, when the truth is, even if you had 3 fish, you still would be paying out the @ss for them, when it all averages out.
There are 900 other spots in this state to catch table worthy walleyes that don't involve mega-bucks, and i'm sure most of us are within 15 miles of any of these said spots.
it is not just a particular body of water it is the st lawrence river and lake ontario. last time i checked those were 2 pretty good size bodies of water that will effect a lot of people who ice fish.u dont seem to understand 1 fish does not usually make a meal. 3 nice walleye feed the family dinner. when i fish i enjoy the peace and quiet bringing home fillets is an added bonus.when i hunt  it is nice to be in the woods but also rewarding to bring home venison. the whole idea here is the added bonus of the harvest. i see no decline in walleye numbers where i fish we have 2 clubs that stock walleye annualy st lawrence walleye association and ogdensburg sportsmen club. never once heard of a pike stocking program.
Title: Re: proposed dec regulations change
Post by: esox v on Jul 01, 2011, 12:07 AM
Not unless they're running a charter service betwen January, and March on the St. Lawrence.
Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that during this particular timeframe, you'll find most of em' guiding steelies in a driftboat, or the salt flats of Florida.
Yea... I realized that driving back to work ... I have no comment.... other than I'm going to quit ice fishing !! :w00t: :w00t:
 :rotflol: :rotflol: :rotflol: are Most fishing for one cookie cutter steelhead and soon to be one brown trout !! NICE !!