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Title: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Jul 18, 2016, 07:06 AM
12' outback. It's so easy to do. The leg workout is crazy takes couple days before you feel it. Jelly legs. Was hoping for couple trips this week. But sh#* happens and I'll be luck to get maybe two in.
 I've only caught bass in it so far. I'm still Leary about big stripers flipping me over though. I've seen on tv where they catch Marlin and tarpon in them. Nantucket sled rides must be cool too.
 How long before legs get used to it?
 How far does an average trip go?
 I'm looking to see whats the biggest wake bait  they make. Danny plug was amazing behind Hobie.
  GPS said I did 7 miles felt like 20. Felt more like 30 three days later. Chased a school of Pogie for almost 4 hrs.
 Anybody got one and heading out on northshore pm me. I'll go.

 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Jul 18, 2016, 08:09 AM
I had a Hobie Revo/Outback for years. They are a great fishing platform. I never really had issues with the legs, but that comes from 15yrs of Mountain Bike Racing i think.

Biggest striper i ever got out of one was 41in on a live mack. Caught plenty of 30s trolling Tube and Worm. Thats a staple lure for yak fishing. Wait till u hook into a big fish and it literally tow u around lol, its awesome.

My average trip was about 15miles. Ive had it as far out as 3 miles jigging for cod. They are alot of fun, almost no maintenance, can launch anywhere, car top, etc..

The weight can be an issue, especially at the end of a long day.  If you have any questions feel free to ask.

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Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 18, 2016, 08:32 AM
I liked the 12'er I borrowed.  Stable, easy to use, pretty quick as well.  I did a few miles, legs were fine (thanks canal) I think about owning one myself but wouldnt get a new one...
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: 3300 on Jul 20, 2016, 01:01 PM
my three kayaks don't have a pedal system, but why not try a paddle to work out your upper body while your lower gets a break.
also, you could add an electric trolling motor to it and get a break from either.

they make a wind sail for yak's too.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Jul 21, 2016, 08:33 AM
my three kayaks don't have a pedal system, but why not try a paddle to work out your upper body while your lower gets a break.
also, you could add an electric trolling motor to it and get a break from either.

they make a wind sail for yak's too.
The exercise is good. Just can't believe how it effects the legs two three days later. I paddle some too. I like to let the fish work the upper body. I have a power boat so no trolling motor for yak.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Jul 22, 2016, 09:43 AM
Again I'm impressed with mirage drive. I pulled a grounded (21')boat off the beach and out into some water. With just my legs no paddle. Guy couldn't believe it. A kayak saved his arse.
 Going to bling it up today mounting Lowrance and a couple more rod holders.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Jul 23, 2016, 06:09 AM
The exercise is good. Just can't believe how it effects the legs two three days later. I paddle some too. I like to let the fish work the upper body. I have a power boat so no trolling motor for yak.

Agreed, paddle yaks in the ocean are tough, especially with a big fish towing you around. I know people do it, but u cant beat the hobie.

Also if you add a trolling motor, you have to register it.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Jul 24, 2016, 07:08 AM
Trolling eels from one of those in some spots would be insanely productive.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Jul 25, 2016, 06:38 AM
Seblie magic swimmer was the ticket. 4.5 f.o.w.  I did 7 mile loupe by the beaches. Got three fish before wind picked up. Ran into huge school of squid being being eaten by schoolies. Played with some of them for a while before calling it a day.
 Found great way to catch squid. I put a chunk down let them grab on then scoop behind them with net. They let go and go backwards. Tried fishing them live and dead nothing hit them.
 I've got the guide wear shirts but need the pants legs got a lot of sun even with spf 70 applied many times. 😡
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Jul 25, 2016, 10:25 AM
Seblie magic swimmer was the ticket. 4.5 f.o.w.  I did 7 mile loupe by the beaches. Got three fish before wind picked up. Ran into huge school of squid being being eaten by schoolies. Played with some of them for a while before calling it a day.
 Found great way to catch squid. I put a chunk down let them grab on then scoop behind them with net. They let go and go backwards. Tried fishing them live and dead nothing hit them.
 I've got the guide wear shirts but need the pants legs got a lot of sun even with spf 70 applied many times. 😡

Sun protection is huge. I highly recommend the Hogy Tube and worm rigs for trolling. I have seen and caught more bass from a yak using those than any other lure.

Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Jul 25, 2016, 10:53 AM
Sun protection is huge. I highly recommend the Hogy Tube and worm rigs for trolling. I have seen and caught more bass from a yak using those than any other lure.


I only use Santini tube and worm. (He 's on here.) you should go to his shop meet him. I promise you'll learn something useful. He does guided trips too. I know your buddy does too but il bet some of his #,000 GPS points are some of Pete's. Pete is interesting just to listen to. His tube and worms are the best. I have know doubt. When you can buy the best at a great price why buy the knock offs. I use leadcore to prevent twist and get extra depth. I never put the rod down or in holder.
 People say it's more about good worm than good tubes. I've used week old dead worm(stink worm) before and caught fish. I tell people it's about good tubes. Slug-go's on the other hand anything that looks like it works great.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Jul 27, 2016, 12:41 PM
I only use Santini tube and worm. (He 's on here.) you should go to his shop meet him. I promise you'll learn something useful. He does guided trips too. I know your buddy does too but il bet some of his #,000 GPS points are some of Pete's. Pete is interesting just to listen to. His tube and worms are the best. I have know doubt. When you can buy the best at a great price why buy the knock offs. I use leadcore to prevent twist and get extra depth. I never put the rod down or in holder.
 People say it's more about good worm than good tubes. I've used week old dead worm(stink worm) before and caught fish. I tell people it's about good tubes. Slug-go's on the other hand anything that looks like it works great.

Ive been to that shop a bunch of times, and he does make great tubes as well.

Its good you got in the habit of keeping the rod in your hand, its definitely results in more fish in the boat. One tip i learned while trolling tubes is to keep the rod tip parallel or just above the water and slowly work the rod front to back. As you move the rod forward the tube speeds up and rises. As you drop it back it slows and sinks. This will help you determine the depth the fish are at and how aggressive they are that day.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Aug 03, 2016, 06:10 AM
I was so close. Found some pogies to snag. Snagged my first one but got distracted and he rub hook off in shallow water. I snag another and same thing. Lot of boat traffic in that area. I didn't want to show everyone where's they were.I only had Couple hours to fish and had to leave. I'll be back to try again. Looking for my first 30lbs. Plus fish in kayak. (Sleigh ride) 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 05:22 AM
I was so close. Found some pogies to snag. Snagged my first one but got distracted and he rub hook off in shallow water. I snag another and same thing. Lot of boat traffic in that area. I didn't want to show everyone where's they were.I only had Couple hours to fish and had to leave. I'll be back to try again. Looking for my first 30lbs. Plus fish in kayak. (Sleigh ride) 

It dont take much to tow a yak, a fish in the 30+inch range will give you a good tug.

Couple tips for you while you are out there:

1: Try to land every fish the same way (like its a big fish) this way when u get a cow, its all muscle memory.

2: Keep a light drag at all times. I usually ran around 5lb drag. Your kayak will provide more drag than your reel. The loose drag is in case the fish runs right under your yak. If your drag is tight, a good sized fish could roll you.

3. Being in a Hobie, always keep the fish in front of you. Never fight backwards or off the side if possible.

4. When u get the fish boat side and have a grip on it, place the rod in a rod holder and open the bail or engage free spool. If it escapes your grasp you dont want a large fish with a face full of hooks on a short leash.

5. When fighting the fish, dont pull them in to fast. Fewer things are more dangerous than a green cow boat side. Tire them out and spend a little extra time reviving.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: stripernut on Aug 04, 2016, 08:26 AM
Quote
I know your buddy does too but il bet some of his #,000 GPS points are some of Pete's.
Hey "Knot there yet", do you know how that sounds? Like I stole numbers from Pete, you calling me a thief? I know Pete, nice guy, we have never fished together for cod or stripers. What a uncool thing to say about someone, what did I do to you that would make you say I steal other anglers numbers? I have been Guiding for over 20 years and Pete and I don't even fish the same way. Well "Knot there yet", you bet wrong and you should watch who your going to call a thief. This website is here so we can help each other out with this great sport of fishing, not name calling, that is for Fox News, Bravo and elementary school playgrounds.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 04, 2016, 08:37 AM
Salps again?  ;D

Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Aug 04, 2016, 09:06 AM
Hey "Knot there yet", do you know how that sounds? Like I stole numbers from Pete, you calling me a thief? I know Pete, nice guy, we have never fished together for cod or stripers. What a uncool thing to say about someone, what did I do to you that would make you say I steal other anglers numbers? I have been Guiding for over 20 years and Pete and I don't even fish the same way. Well "Knot there yet", you bet wrong and you should watch who your going to call a thief. This website is here so we can help each other out with this great sport of fishing, not name calling, that is for Fox News, Bravo and elementary school playgrounds.

easy there profiteer. Selling way points come on.How many pro's you know that do that for $$$ on craiglist. You invent a lure sold around the world. I don't think so. So don't put yourself in Pete's league. A pro guide who still guides on daddy's boat come on. I didn't call you thief. I've got waypoints that you have. So is  that's stealing?
Sport not job go back to craiglist$$$$$ hound. Ive been on many guided trips and they were true pro's. Except Lake Okeechobee he drank all my beer. (I don't like captains that drink alcohol on trips) If your a pro act like one. Get off rec. site. I meant we all use some common GPS spots is all I meant.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 09:59 AM
easy there profiteer. Selling way points come on.How many pro's you that do that for $$$ on craiglist. You invent a lure sold around the world. I don't think so. So don't put yourself in Pete's league. A pro guide who still guides on daddy's boat come on. I didn't call you thief. I've got waypoints that you have. So is  that's stealing?
Sport not job go back to craiglist$$$$$ hound. Ive been on many guided trips and they were true pro's. Except Lake Okeechobee he drank all my beer. (I don't like captains that drink alcohol on trips) If your a pro act like one. Get off rec. site. I meant we all use some common GPS spots is all I meant.

You must save all your alcohol drinking for the forums. Like all your posts, this is a compilation of incoherent babble... Like trying to decipher Da Vincis Code.

 Selling way points come on.How many pro's you that do that for $$$ on craiglist.
Its a service he offers and people pay for, who cares who they are?

You invent a lure sold around the world
And you/Pete did?

A pro guide who still guides on daddy's boat come on
When you have done something long enough, and are good at it you build a reputation. People literally pay him to come out on their boats to put them on fish..

If your a pro act like one. Get off rec. site.
Your buddy Pete is on these sites, as well as a site sponsor..

I meant we all use some common GPS spots is all I meant.
It seems like this is all you needed to say..
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: SPN on Aug 04, 2016, 10:11 AM
This website is here so we can help each other out with this great sport of fishing, not name calling, that is for Fox News, Bravo and elementary school playgrounds.


Don't forget CNN, MSNBC, Politicians, in the  half truths and name calling!!! LOL

but seriously regarding kayaks.......anyone have a Pelican Strike 120?  looking for my first fishing kayak.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 10:16 AM
Don't forget CNN, MSNBC, Politicians, in the  half truths and name calling!!! LOL

but seriously regarding kayaks.......anyone have a Pelican Strike 120?  looking for my first fishing kayak.

Are you looking to do salt fishing or freshwater?
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: SPN on Aug 04, 2016, 10:22 AM
Are you looking to do salt fishing or freshwater?
freshwater and back bays in southern NJ saltwater...
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 10:27 AM
Check out the Basspro Ascend FS12T kayaks. They are a great price and come with the newer Vantage stadium style seats. Much more dry and 100x more comfortable.

http://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS12T-SitonTop-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/1512140822/ (http://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS12T-SitonTop-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/1512140822/)
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: SPN on Aug 04, 2016, 10:30 AM
nice thanks!!! I will check it out......
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 04, 2016, 10:48 AM
Someone please pull up the salps post it will make my day....our CRM at work is hosed and my guys are more useless than some of the posts in this thread...I could use a laugh.

Also I always liked nucanue's product.  Heavy and not comparable to a hobie but def has merit in some applications.
Title: Fishing spots
Post by: Jjj538 on Aug 04, 2016, 10:58 AM
Hi,
We will be launching our boat out of Plymouth Ma today. I used to have a web site that talked about where the fish are biting. Does anyone know what the web site is? Or is there another place to look?
Thank you all in advance!
[email protected]
- Jeanne
Title: Re: Fishing spots
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 11:01 AM
Hi,
We will be launching our boat out of Plymouth Ma today. I used to have a web site that talked about where the fish are biting. Does anyone know what the web site is? Or is there another place to look?
Thank you all in advance!
[email protected]
- Jeanne

On the Water fishing reports is a pretty good place to start. Calling local bait shops is good too.

http://www.onthewater.com/forecasts/2016/08/cape-cod-fishing-report-august-3-2016/ (http://www.onthewater.com/forecasts/2016/08/cape-cod-fishing-report-august-3-2016/)
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: westernmas on Aug 04, 2016, 11:11 AM
Someone please pull up the salps post it will make my day....our CRM at work is hosed and my guys are more useless than some of the posts in this thread...I could use a laugh.

Also I always liked nucanue's product.  Heavy and not comparable to a hobie but def has merit in some applications.

HAHAHAHA....http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=69156.0 (http://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/index.php?topic=69156.0)
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: westernmas on Aug 04, 2016, 11:18 AM
Check out the Basspro Ascend FS12T kayaks. They are a great price and come with the newer Vantage stadium style seats. Much more dry and 100x more comfortable.

http://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS12T-SitonTop-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/1512140822/ (http://www.basspro.com/Ascend-FS12T-SitonTop-Kayak-Desert-Storm/product/1512140822/)

Thanks for the suggestion.  After catching that striper last weekend I'm definitely thinking I need to invest in a SOT and don't have the cash to put down on something like a Hobie.  I was pretty anxious in my 10 foot sit inside, especially at night.  Luckily the seas were very calm so there wasn't much to worry about.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 11:23 AM
I was pretty anxious in my 10 foot sit inside, especially at night.  Luckily the seas were very calm so there wasn't much to worry about.

Yah man, a 10ft SiNK (Sit In Kayak) is pretty sketchy on the salt.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Aug 04, 2016, 12:02 PM
Someone please pull up the salps post it will make my day....our CRM at work is hosed and my guys are more useless than some of the posts in this thread...I could use a laugh.

Also I always liked nucanue's product.  Heavy and not comparable to a hobie but def has merit in some applications.
the three 4K post amigo's " Dumb and Dumber II", Jon I hear the conn. Board calling for you.
Will I fixed the context sorry. Pro's you know.
 You see Pete pedaling his shop or his service in the forums.
  He did invent.
 I didn't say I did.
Sorry I didn't grow up typing on a one of these thing. Sometime things get jumbled when trying to edit.
Nuts my pet peeve is " my numbers"  never liked anyone that says my number. It's the ocean. But selling someone numbers is crap. Teaching them why certain number work at certain times. So they can go find there own spots.
  Tell old man I love the boat SC. Bought Starcraft awhile
Ago
 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 12:08 PM

Nuts my pet peeve is " my numbers"  never liked anyone that says my number. It's the ocean. But selling someone numbers is crap. Teaching them why certain number work at certain times. So they can go find there own spots.
 
 

I think that's where the disconnect is. He collected the data himself. As such he has the right to do with that data as he pleases. The fact that you dont like that is irrelevant...


You see Pete pedaling his shop or his service in the forums.
  He did invent.
 

Hes a site sponsor so yes, thats exactly what hes doing.. 

What did he invent?

Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 04, 2016, 01:41 PM
the three 4K post amigo's " Dumb and Dumber II", Jon I hear the conn. Board calling for you.
Will I fixed the context sorry. Pro's you know.
 You see Pete pedaling his shop or his service in the forums.
  He did invent.
 I didn't say I did.
Sorry I didn't grow up typing on a one of these thing. Sometime things get jumbled when trying to edit.
Nuts my pet peeve is " my numbers"  never liked anyone that says my number. It's the ocean. But selling someone numbers is crap. Teaching them why certain number work at certain times. So they can go find there own spots.
  Tell old man I love the boat SC. Bought Starcraft awhile
Ago
 

What you fail to realize is you are my hero.  I will ensure santini is aware that he has a drunk fan that "loves his worm" when I next see him.  Now go find some salps or the things that eat salps.  Continue to rock on and please make fun of me whenever you get a chance, because it's so worth being able to read your 4th grade level posts!  

If you are ever inclined, I will teach you how to write a sentence for all of your "numbers" LMFAO!

Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Yachtzy on Aug 04, 2016, 02:32 PM
I have an Ascend FS12T sit on top, the price is right, but any rough water and you are going to take water over the bow, and I only use it in fresh water, can only imagine it being worse in the salt. For a little more money, Feel Free has a 11.5' lure with a very comfortable seat, just my opinion. If your a big guy, then Jackson makes a nice sturdy craft. There are many other brands too, but after one year with the Ascend I'm ready to upgrade.
Thanks for the suggestion.  After catching that striper last weekend I'm definitely thinking I need to invest in a SOT and don't have the cash to put down on something like a Hobie.  I was pretty anxious in my 10 foot sit inside, especially at night.  Luckily the seas were very calm so there wasn't much to worry about.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Yachtzy on Aug 04, 2016, 02:44 PM
easy there profiteer. Selling way points come on.How many pro's you know that do that for $$$ on craiglist. You invent a lure sold around the world. I don't think so. So don't put yourself in Pete's league. A pro guide who still guides on daddy's boat come on. I didn't call you thief. I've got waypoints that you have. So is  that's stealing?
Sport not job go back to craiglist$$$$$ hound. Ive been on many guided trips and they were true pro's. Except Lake Okeechobee he drank all my beer. (I don't like captains that drink alcohol on trips) If your a pro act like one. Get off rec. site. I meant we all use some common GPS spots is all I meant.

  Dave on a jealous rampage, again. I have fished with you, and I have fished with Allan also. I find it ironic you throwing jabs at him. I feel he has forgotten more than you have ever learned, and that is my honest opinion.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 04, 2016, 07:16 PM
Most sit on tops take water over the bow in choppy conditions. Thats why sit on tops are suggested for salt use.

Once you get to the 1k range u are in the Used Hobie territory. Another nice and lightweight yak is the Hurricane Skimmer. I i were in the market for  paddle yak, the skimmer would be the top of the list.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Aug 05, 2016, 09:21 AM
Oh boy the short bus is buzzing. No more on! Last stop knowitall circle.
 On the same lake or in the ocean at same time doesn't qualify as fishing together. Yes I went on your boat once.i thanked you for trip and was grateful as I'm for every safe trip.
 I wouldn't say we fished together.You fish alone remember just you and your phone. (App. I showed you) Mr. Google earth!   Beep Beep all off last stop.
 Jealous rampage HaHa.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 05, 2016, 09:27 AM
Yes I went on your boat once.

I'd say that qualifies as fishing together lol

Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Aug 05, 2016, 09:31 AM
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Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: otzi thawed on Aug 05, 2016, 02:03 PM
As the Worm Turns.... ::)   Time to make some popcorn!
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Aug 08, 2016, 10:00 PM
PB. 27lbs. 42" Striper
In the dark
alone.
WOW.
 Live Pogie  14' fow
 Close to shore and fish swam next me into shallot water.
I was on the phone when it hit. I thought I had hung up but buddy calls me back laughing.I may have let out a little yell during sleigh ride. Left drag lite and had to fight the urge to tighten down. Glad I didn't when it went under boat.(Ty Will) Short boat pole made huge difference.
 I'll be there tomorrow 😀😀😀😀
 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: westernmas on Aug 09, 2016, 07:43 AM
PB. 27lbs. 42" Striper
In the dark
alone.
WOW.
 Live Pogie  14' fow
 Close to shore and fish swam next me into shallot water.
I was on the phone when it hit. I thought I had hung up but buddy calls me back laughing.I may have let out a little yell during sleigh ride. Left drag lite and had to fight the urge to tighten down. Glad I didn't when it went under boat.(Ty Will) Short boat pole made huge difference.
 I'll be there tomorrow 😀😀😀😀
 

Nice work.  They sure are fun to catch out of a kayak.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Aug 09, 2016, 10:53 AM
PB. 27lbs. 42" Striper
In the dark
alone.
WOW.
 Live Pogie  14' fow
 Close to shore and fish swam next me into shallot water.
I was on the phone when it hit. I thought I had hung up but buddy calls me back laughing.I may have let out a little yell during sleigh ride. Left drag lite and had to fight the urge to tighten down. Glad I didn't when it went under boat.(Ty Will) Short boat pole made huge difference.
 I'll be there tomorrow 😀😀😀😀
 

Good job man, glad i could help.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Sep 02, 2016, 09:32 AM
  Pogies all around me last night. Blues kept biting them in half. At night alone felt like trying to catch Santa Claus coming down chimney. On the edge all night. I fished two live pogies at once in yak. Wow are my arm tired. Cross over, cross over, under ,over ,under all night. Fog rolled in so I rolled out. Couple chasers but no hook ups
 I've switched to circle hooks this year from trebles. Have lost a few fish from trying to set hook instead of letting it do its job. I'm sticking with the circle hooks but miss the trebles.
 I let half eaten Pogie sit on bottom for a while but could not resist snagging another and live lining it. Hardest working baits. They'll swim all day for yeah.
 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 02, 2016, 10:46 AM
  Pogies all around me last night. Blues kept biting them in half. At night alone felt like trying to catch Santa Claus coming down chimney. On the edge all night. I fished two live pogies at once in yak. Wow are my arm tired. Cross over, cross over, under ,over ,under all night. Fog rolled in so I rolled out. Couple chasers but no hook ups
 I've switched to circle hooks this year from trebles. Have lost a few fish from trying to set hook instead of letting it do its job. I'm sticking with the circle hooks but miss the trebles.
 I let half eaten Pogie sit on bottom for a while but could not resist snagging another and live lining it. Hardest working baits. They'll swim all day for yeah.
 

8/0 octopus will get the job done like the treble and still allow for a satisfying hookset, without the loss of fish like circles.  I like circles for eeling when sometimes you have no idea the bass ate the eel. We had a bunker trip earlier in the season where we caught the bass busting them and man did the eat the chunks we offered quickly! 

The other thing too RE the circles or any hook and bunker chunks...best tip I was ever given is nver hook through the back, hook through the belly which allows for a much wider gap between the bait and hookpoint! 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: westernmas on Sep 02, 2016, 01:17 PM
8/0 octopus will get the job done like the treble and still allow for a satisfying hookset, without the loss of fish like circles.  I like circles for eeling when sometimes you have no idea the bass ate the eel. We had a bunker trip earlier in the season where we caught the bass busting them and man did the eat the chunks we offered quickly! 

The other thing too RE the circles or any hook and bunker chunks...best tip I was ever given is nver hook through the back, hook through the belly which allows for a much wider gap between the bait and hookpoint! 

When I was using circle hooks with eels I continual gut hooked the fish and just had to cut the line in hopes that the hook would rust out.  I always like to release fish as unharmed as possible and was disappointed being forced to leave the hook in there.  I had a little bit better luck with the octopus hooks so maybe it is tough to get a good hook set in the mouth with eels.  Was I doing something wrong?
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 02, 2016, 02:32 PM
When I was using circle hooks with eels I continual gut hooked the fish and just had to cut the line in hopes that the hook would rust out.  I always like to release fish as unharmed as possible and was disappointed being forced to leave the hook in there.  I had a little bit better luck with the octopus hooks so maybe it is tough to get a good hook set in the mouth with eels.  Was I doing something wrong?

I think its very important for everyone to realize that no matter what you do gut hooked fish are going to happen...to me, to you, to anyone, regardless of hopk type or skill level of the angler involved.  We are all equal there...so with that said I'd politely suggest that the only thing you did wrong is not having a hook removal tool to get the hook out.  9/10 if you can see the hook you can turn it out.  Sometimes if it isn't showing you can pull the leader very gently to get the shank to show and then turn it out.  At the end of the day, if you have to cut one and leave it I would't sweat it too much, it happens and should rust out quickly.  One question is what size hook were you using.  I see lots of guys use 3/0, 4/0, 5/0 which simply isnt big enough.  7/0 or 8/0 is much more desirable and the wider gap makes it a bit harder to get in their gullet.  Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Sep 04, 2016, 03:21 PM
New PB 28lbs 42" fish. In a morring field. It  was a good chase to keep him in front of me. Only snagged 3 pogies. Only needed one. Now the storm is coming.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Sep 08, 2016, 11:27 AM
Epic night last night. Three fish landed. Lost two more all cows around 40". My arms are spent from all the reeling. While loading yak on roof it slid off truck and the back end smashed me in the face. Thought I was going down but caught myself just in time. Saw some stars thought I might have knocked out some teeth. To my surprise they're all still there. No black eye but cheek is real sore. I'll be securing the bow line from now on.
 
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Sep 08, 2016, 12:15 PM
Ouch, those hobie arent light either. The bright side is, it probably saved you a couple hundred bucks in replacing your rudder and assembly.

I just picked up a cheap Bass Pro Ascend Kayak for local waters between quabbin seasons. Its not a salt worthy yak tho.

Been eyeing the new Propel Drive Hurricane Skimmer 120 for that.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: boondox on Sep 08, 2016, 12:33 PM
.so with that said I'd politely suggest that the only thing you did wrong is not having a hook removal tool to get the hook out. 

Now shouldn't there be a rule on that? I know Florida in the Gulf of mexiCo it's required to have a hook out tool and a devent tool. On every vessel and for bait fishing circles hook are all that's aloud.. now you would think there should be a rule on that in the alantic in your state? Or not?  what do you guys gals  think? Me personally have sabiki out aND a lager fish DEgouger and s venter for life tool..  So any thoughts on it?
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: lowaccord66 on Sep 08, 2016, 01:18 PM
Now shouldn't there be a rule on that? I know Florida in the Gulf of mexiCo it's required to have a hook out tool and a devent tool. On every vessel and for bait fishing circles hook are all that's aloud.. now you would think there should be a rule on that in the alantic in your state? Or not?  what do you guys gals  think? Me personally have sabiki out aND a lager fish DEgouger and s venter for life tool..  So any thoughts on it?

The anti govt in me says I don't need a law for something that should be common sense.  Then again I see lots of people continue fishing for stripers catch and release after obtaining their limit which is illegal so t a law like that may not make any difference.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: boondox on Sep 08, 2016, 03:15 PM
The anti govt in me says I don't need a law for something that should be common sense.  Then again I see lots of people continue fishing for stripers catch and release after obtaining their limit which is illegal so t a law like that may not make any difference.

I can see why you don't want it you forget something like a venting tool or a degouger they could ticket you. Kinda like the coast guard with fire extinguishers. Writing tickets.. but your right Iam sure you got similar problems with people taking illegal catches. Like with our king salmon on the west side people ware costumes so to avoid law enforcement. Like wigs glasses etc pretty funny kinda a circus when the run starts. The other point is does your state print a rap phone number on your back of your licences? Like our state does? Rap is a report all poaching hot line number.. maybe your state should have citizens report to the c/o so they have a citizens watch group if any thing.. it does work up here .. but like said people don't care .. so they still get by some times.. only suggestion no biggie..
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Sep 13, 2016, 08:53 AM
First time ever two Pogies on one cast
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Sep 14, 2016, 10:54 AM
Wow bluefish on it pure crazy.
 Extreme fishing hooks and teeth not much room to work with. The old days I'd just have smashed the blue over the head but now release is tricky. I was very happy when they shuck off. I fish heavy line I thought 30lbs mono. Two Break  offs above steel leader. The pogies were huge. The bite radius on the ones I got half back was 7-8".  The only time I can remember a break off on 30lbs was when I got two blues on the same lure.Some wind and chop made it even more of a challenge. I was on,off and back on the roof of truck in just over an hour. Both pole stripped of thier gear.
 May have to up the whole setup rod and reel. Go conventional reels and 50-80#heavy line even wire maybe for next year.
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: boondox on Sep 14, 2016, 01:15 PM
Wow bluefish on it pure crazy.
 Extreme fishing hooks and teeth not much room to work with. The old days I'd just have smashed the blue over the head but now release is tricky. I was very happy when they shuck off. I fish heavy line I thought 30lbs mono. Two Break  offs above steel leader. The pogies were huge. The bite radius on the ones I got half back was 7-8".  The only time I can remember a break off on 30lbs was when I got two blues on the same lure.Some wind and chop made it even more of a challenge. I was on,off and back on the roof of truck in just over an hour. Both pole stripped of thier gear.
 May have to up the whole setup rod and reel. Go conventional reels and 50-80#heavy line even wire maybe for next year.


Small lemon shark?? Like black tip etc etc.. sharks??
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: bigredfishing on Sep 14, 2016, 01:47 PM
here's a cool kayaking video with my buddy landing a big assed cobia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDMpcYRB9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kDMpcYRB9o)
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Knot there yet on Nov 30, 2016, 11:02 AM
Turbo fins or not to turbo fin?
Sailing rudder a must add on going on.
New fish Finder mount but placement is scary . Anybody put rails on? You
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Baitbucket on Nov 30, 2016, 02:45 PM
Turbo fins or not to turbo fin?
Sailing rudder a must add on going on.
New fish Finder mount but placement is scary . Anybody put rails on? You

The first two upgrades i did to both my Hobies was Sailing Rudder and Turbo Fins. I would go with both for sure.

I have also put rails on mine as well. I believe i used yakattaks and cut them down. I also use the Scotty Gear Heads that you can slide anywhere u want in the rail.

I would suggest leaving one side of the yak clear of holders/fishfinder, etc.. Incase you ever flip the yak and need to get back in, nothing is in the way.

Here are a couple pics.

(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi247.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg121%2Fwillcooper4%2FKayak%2520Pics%2F20150305_170925_zpsf0lushp5.jpg&hash=f2ad7a8a2ee5dd724d063cac3e6ad78c)

(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi247.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg121%2Fwillcooper4%2FKayak%2520Pics%2F20150305_170956_zpsvejpmtxh.jpg&hash=f40f3451b110ec804d9f1595ad107c83)

(https://www.myfishfinder.com/fishing_forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi247.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg121%2Fwillcooper4%2FKayak%2520Pics%2F20150411_105235_zpsb63uewhm.jpg&hash=ef8ed458bf67799e0c6ad593d04902a1)
Title: Re: Hobie newbie
Post by: Eastciderida on Dec 11, 2016, 09:35 AM
Let me know when you head out come spring time I'm looking to make some trips out on the salt and still learning how to fish for strippers and saltwater fishing in general. Just picked up an old town predator mx and would love to get towed by a big fish