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Title: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 08, 2020, 08:31 AM
can't help but wonder if the   corona virus is  going  to affect anyones  traveling  or  fishing vacations .....starting to look like it's here to stay
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Mac Attack on Mar 08, 2020, 10:36 AM
Welcome back Trap

Itís not effecting mine
Iím cruising now
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Flukeman on Mar 08, 2020, 12:55 PM
It won't effect mine, most of my trips are local anyway. I am going to Canada in May, so I suppose if they close the border it would effect me. I live in an area that has many retired people who go south vatious times between January and April. None of them have cancelled any of their flights these last couple months of travel.

In the end I think it will be another variation of the flu. Eventually they will have a vaccine, in the mean time people should do what they can to keep a sanitized environment around them. If your older or have health issues I would be very aware of feeling sick and get treated right away just to be on safe side.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: MILLERMANKT on Mar 08, 2020, 10:32 PM
I personallly believe it's all hype from the media . Every year there is a new strain of the flu and everyone gets crazy. I'm certainly not saying people shouldn't wash their hands, but everyone seems crazy on these hand sanitizers  and disinfectants. Let your body build up it's immune system.
P.S.  I'm still fishing.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Doubles Shooter on Mar 09, 2020, 04:40 AM
The CDC estimates the 2018-19 season had 35.5 million sick with regular influenza. 16.5 million went to the DR's for it. 490,600 hospitalized and 34,200 deaths. Corona just doesn't seem to be this bad. Maybe I'm wrong, but I also think this is another political ploy. "Never let a crisis go to waste"
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 09, 2020, 04:47 AM
It's not hype if you live in a place where people are packed together like worms in a coffee can.

I work part time in a retail environment. The computers, shopping carts, employee break room, rest rooms and grateful customers who want to shake your hand make me cringe. I carry hand sanitizer all the time. I have since I started in the store.

Wash your hands.....really wash your hands, avoid touching your face, eyes and nose and don't hang around with sick people! If you're ill....STAY HOME!

That said, we sold out of every kind of dust mask and respirator we stocked  about 3 weeks ago. Now it's rubber gloves. Next they'll be buying giant plastic bags and tyvek suits to wear.

DS...you hit the nail on the head!

Will it affect my fishing? No.....I fish alone.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Raquettedacker on Mar 09, 2020, 07:04 AM
My kid is finishing up college in Hempsted Long island and bartending at a  big sports bar.  He called 11:00 last night to tell us they cancled classes till further notice..   Hes afraid of no graduation.    And we have reservations down there for a week in May.......... >:( >:(
Title: Re: virus
Post by: FrankM on Mar 09, 2020, 08:47 AM
What the fake impeachment failed to accomplish, the fake coronavirus scare is succeeding to do. The fake news has successfully shattered the confidence of the American People.  There are many things that occur that kill way more people than the coronavirus.  We need to stop running around with our hair on fire and live our lives. Go to work, go fishing, enjoy your families and ignore fake news.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: reeleyz on Mar 09, 2020, 12:30 PM
And this is why I don't watch or read the news. Seriously the last time I watched the news was on Halloween because we were at my in laws house and it was on their TV. Not worth my time or aggravation.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: ActiveTrapChecker on Mar 09, 2020, 12:53 PM
And this is why I don't watch or read the news. Seriously the last time I watched the news was on Halloween because we were at my in laws house and it was on their TV. Not worth my time or aggravation.

I canít agree more, with the news and the in-laws
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 09, 2020, 03:13 PM
Well, ignorance is bliss I've heard. I choose to listen and decide for myself.

I can understand a scare in Long Island. Hope everything goes well for him Dom.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Pequod1 on Mar 09, 2020, 04:36 PM
We just cancelled our flight to Seattle. My youngest son was scheduled to defend his doctoral research on the 19th at the university of Washington.  The campus is now closed and a staff member there tested positive.  My son tells me seattle is turning into a ghost town.  People are afraid to go out.  Pikes market is empty.
This is what I know. Itís real for me and some of you better start believing too.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: TRC on Mar 09, 2020, 04:38 PM
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-scared-germs-needs-drink-straw-avoid-contamination-671730 (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-scared-germs-needs-drink-straw-avoid-contamination-671730)
Title: Re: virus
Post by: bbfrogger on Mar 09, 2020, 04:41 PM
Won't affect me at all - the vast majority of the people that get it experience symptoms similar to a mild cold.  The reaction of the media is ridiculous.  Its only a big deal because they want it to be a big deal.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 10, 2020, 04:59 AM
We just cancelled our flight to Seattle. My youngest son was scheduled to defend his doctoral research on the 19th at the university of Washington.  The campus is now closed and a staff member there tested positive.  My son tells me seattle is turning into a ghost town.  People are afraid to go out.  Pikes market is empty.
This is what I know. Itís real for me and some of you better start believing too.
That's a shame. But, better safe than sorry.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: reeleyz on Mar 10, 2020, 08:15 AM
Well, ignorance is bliss I've heard. I choose to listen and decide for myself.

I can understand a scare in Long Island. Hope everything goes well for him Dom.

Rg

I stopped watching the news 6 years ago when my oldest was a baby. It was so negative that I couldnít find any good reason to have that garbage on.

I would be surprised if anyone found anything truly useful out of the news nowadays.

They are good at creating mass hysteria though.

Sad state of affairs. Sorry for anyone that has plans cancelled because of this.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: FrankM on Mar 10, 2020, 08:45 AM
The virus is real. The media reaction to it is hysteria. I watch the news in an attempt to keep informed but I have to discard 90% of what is presented because it is some communist talking head's opinion or childish speculation. The horse is out of the barn and not likely to be caught. All we can do is take the exact same precautions we do for the flu and continue on with our lives. Extra steps need to be taken to protect frail old people. The stock market losing 20% of its value (and my 401K as well) due to lemmings jumping off the cliff is a gross over-reaction.  Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in the not too distant future. I have 1278 days until I plan to start drawing off that 401K and it sure would be nice to have some fishing funds in there at that time.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: ronco on Mar 10, 2020, 10:02 AM
The virus is real. The media reaction to it is hysteria. I watch the news in an attempt to keep informed but I have to discard 90% of what is presented because it is some communist talking head's opinion or childish speculation. The horse is out of the barn and not likely to be caught. All we can do is take the exact same precautions we do for the flu and continue on with our lives. Extra steps need to be taken to protect frail old people. The stock market losing 20% of its value (and my 401K as well) due to lemmings jumping off the cliff is a gross over-reaction.  Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in the not too distant future. I have 1278 days until I plan to start drawing off that 401K and it sure would be nice to have some fishing funds in there at that time.



I agree 100%, I'm thinking when it hits mid summer and out of the cold/flu season, they will have a vaccine and/or be out of the flu/cold season and it will calm down. Just like when the scare about avian flu, swine flu, zika, MRSA and other illnesses was going to kill us all, media blowing it up and people over reacting. 
Title: Re: virus
Post by: zwiggles on Mar 10, 2020, 12:36 PM
We just cancelled our flight to Seattle. My youngest son was scheduled to defend his doctoral research on the 19th at the university of Washington.  The campus is now closed and a staff member there tested positive.  My son tells me seattle is turning into a ghost town.  People are afraid to go out.  Pikes market is empty.
This is what I know. Itís real for me and some of you better start believing too.

My family lives out there too. My cousin works construction/landscaping and often has to drive through Seattle for work. When I was out there we typically left at 3am for a job at 9 to avoid traffic. He says heís leaving at 730 for a 9am arrival now.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 10, 2020, 01:46 PM
The virus is real. The media reaction to it is hysteria. I watch the news in an attempt to keep informed but I have to discard 90% of what is presented because it is some communist talking head's opinion or childish speculation. The horse is out of the barn and not likely to be caught. All we can do is take the exact same precautions we do for the flu and continue on with our lives. Extra steps need to be taken to protect frail old people. The stock market losing 20% of its value (and my 401K as well) due to lemmings jumping off the cliff is a gross over-reaction.  Hopefully cooler heads will prevail in the not too distant future. I have 1278 days until I plan to start drawing off that 401K and it sure would be nice to have some fishing funds in there at that time.

Converted all of my stock holdings to bonds for the time being to protect against the correction.  Something you can consider especially if you are close to pulling out.

Now aggressively buying some stocks to take advantage of the correction when it comes back around.

Like reeleze I also stopped watching the news/media.  Seems to me people forget propaganda is still real.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Rugburn on Mar 10, 2020, 02:11 PM
Wish I had stop limits in place, but it is a good time to price average....buy at the bottom! 3m just sold every mask in stock etc.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 10, 2020, 03:14 PM
Well I was right. Lady came into the store and tried to buy 21 full cases of tyvek suits along with near an entire pallet of Lysol wipes. She raised a royal stink when they pointed out that the store had limited sales to 10 of each. They're getting really crazy out there.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 10, 2020, 03:34 PM
 Frank M I agree Iíve seen my share all kinds of flu , bird , swine , H1N1, old type A and B , , Iím not pulling anything  out as I to believe cooler heads will prevail , we shall see
 I was in a Home Depot today and had a conversation with a employee and was told things are leaving the shelves, the media sucks just give us the facts and leave the decisions to us
Title: Re: virus
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 10, 2020, 04:04 PM
Well I was right. Lady came into the store and tried to buy 21 full cases of tyvek suits along with near an entire pallet of Lysol wipes. She raised a royal stink when they pointed out that the store had limited sales to 10 of each. They're getting really crazy out there.

Rg

I just spent a small pile on Dupont's stock. Thanks for the heads up RG!
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 10, 2020, 04:25 PM
Well, if I want to gamble, I'll go to the casino. But, good luck.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Rugburn on Mar 10, 2020, 04:36 PM
Stock market had a good day.....
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Rugburn on Mar 10, 2020, 04:40 PM
SU and BU are going to online classes. Being pro active could have benefits, panicking surely won't. I do feel sorry for those with compromised immune systems.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 10, 2020, 06:39 PM
Well, if I want to gamble, I'll go to the casino. But, good luck.

Rg

They make tyvek.  Good gamble. 
Title: Re: virus
Post by: taxid on Mar 10, 2020, 06:43 PM
Italy has reported 168 deaths from the virus just in the last 24 hours with close to 631 so far. Entire country is shut down. Out of 9000 confirmed cases that makes it a 7 percent mortality rate. The common flu is only 0.1 percent. So the COVID-19 virus in Italy is 70 times more deadly for infected people than the common flu.

The sky is not falling but it's not something to blow off either.

Historically the world gets a Pandemic about every 100 years. The last one was in 1918. It started out so mild in the spring the experts at the time weren't even sure it was an influenza virus. By the fall of that year it had mutated to a very deadly virus that atcually hit the 20 to 40 year olds the worst as it caused their immune systems to overreact. It came in waves.

The Spanish Flu (Did not originate in Spain) killed more people world wide than the black plague did in 10 years.
https://interestingengineering.com/the-1918-spanish-flu-and-what-it-cost-humanity-a-timeline?fbclid=IwAR1tTGTFeiwsiw6jhTb-zrlaS-hT8CdnJGHsVAfxkvrHNHezR46UnszfF2U
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 10, 2020, 07:55 PM
didn't  swinw  sars  H1M1  and  corona  all come  from  china???? hmmmmmmm 
Title: Re: virus
Post by: UglyStik on Mar 10, 2020, 09:13 PM
didn't  swinw  sars  H1M1  and  corona  all come  from  china???? hmmmmmmm

I just saw this article yesterday that pertains to your question....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/589EB018-6206-11EA-BDAC-86A14558BB22 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/589EB018-6206-11EA-BDAC-86A14558BB22)
As for your original question, I still plan on fishing, no big crowds anywhere I fish, usually enough folks to chat with though.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 11, 2020, 04:35 AM
i  plan on  fishing    and i  plan on taking the precautions, staying informed i think is  important .....i think at this point it's only a matter of time and  this virus will be in our areas  ..... don't panic just  be informed and  ready
Title: Re: virus
Post by: hunts2long on Mar 11, 2020, 06:14 AM
My wife was due for an 3 month check-up next Tuesday at New York Presbyterian Hospital in NYC. They e-mailed us on Monday to stay home. NYP is where the Westchester case is being treated, plus we would be traveling though that area. The wife has no immune system due to lung transplant July 2016. We take no chances.
Things that we "have" to use around the house are already off most shelves in the stores...h2l
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 11, 2020, 06:22 AM
 
 
we are also being cautious as my wifeís immune system is severely compromised ,so Iím just rubbing elbows to fins much as possible 😉
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Rugburn on Mar 11, 2020, 08:36 AM
Yesterday we were working with some G10 and GP03 in the machine shop, nasty dusty stuff. Consequently we wear protective respirators while doing so. Along comes a material salesman. He takes one look around, puts his literature on the counter, waves and retreats back to his vehicle. Saved us the 5 minute sales spiel. He probably plastered himself in hand sanitizer when he got out to his vehicle. I kind of like this new peaceful isolation.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: lowaccord66 on Mar 11, 2020, 09:46 AM
My wife was due for an 3 month check-up next Tuesday at New York Presbyterian Hospital in NYC. They e-mailed us on Monday to stay home. NYP is where the Westchester case is being treated, plus we would be traveling though that area. The wife has no immune system due to lung transplant July 2016. We take no chances.
Things that we "have" to use around the house are already off most shelves in the stores...h2l

If you need anything give me a shout and Ill bring stuff from CT.  I hope your wife is doing better.

Worth mentioning there are vaccinations being tested now for Corona virus.  One of which was manufactured here in the US.  China says they will have one by April.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 11, 2020, 10:00 AM
 http://
Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

 Article by Dr Peter Hotez  I found interesting
Title: Re: virus
Post by: hunts2long on Mar 11, 2020, 11:25 AM
Thanks. Wife is doing fine. We seem to be in good shape . We use so much and she is a good shopper, so she has always picked up things we use a lot when they are sale. I think I wash my hands and use Purell about 10 times a day. What I need is hand lotion...lol My hands are always dry....h2l
Title: Re: virus
Post by: UglyStik on Mar 11, 2020, 11:36 AM
Link from article FiletandRelease mentioned.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1150091 (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1150091)
Good read. So, he was saying he only needed a couple million to test this and it would have been done. Now he estimates our economic losses will be in the 10 to 100 BILLION. Ouch... Hopefully his ground work expedites a vaccine.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Badbrad2186 on Mar 11, 2020, 01:06 PM
Thanks. Wife is doing fine. We seem to be in good shape . We use so much and she is a good shopper, so she has always picked up things we use a lot when they are sale. I think I wash my hands and use Purell about 10 times a day. What I need is hand lotion...lol My hands are always dry....h2l
 


To much hand sanitizer is why your hands are so dry
Title: Re: virus
Post by: taxid on Mar 11, 2020, 03:15 PM
didn't  swinw  sars  H1M1  and  corona  all come  from  china???? hmmmmmmm

Yes but the Spanish Flu may have originated on pig farms in the U.S.! No one knows.

What I didn't know until recently is bats are reservoirs for all kinds of viruses. And selling and eating bats and snakes (that eat bats) in Chinese markets is probably where COVID -19 (short for SARS-CoV-2) probably started. Once a novel zoonotic disease gets started (jumps from animal to people transfer to people to people transfer is when you potentially get a virus that people have no immunity to and it can spread like wildfire.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 12, 2020, 04:03 AM
 NBA suspends 2019-20 season 'until further notice' after Rudy Gobert reportedly tests positive for coronavirus
Title: Re: virus
Post by: bbfrogger on Mar 12, 2020, 08:03 AM
Yes but the Spanish Flu may have originated on pig farms in the U.S.! No one knows.

What I didn't know until recently is bats are reservoirs for all kinds of viruses. And selling and eating bats and snakes (that eat bats) in Chinese markets is probably where COVID -19 (short for SARS-CoV-2) probably started. Once a novel zoonotic disease gets started (jumps from animal to people transfer to people to people transfer is when you potentially get a virus that people have no immunity to and it can spread like wildfire.

I believe they said a few weeks ago they traced it back to the meat markets in Wuhan that were selling pangolin (scaly ant eaters).  The things were filthy with the virus
Title: Re: virus
Post by: taxid on Mar 12, 2020, 10:49 AM
I got sicker tha a dog yesterday with vomitting and diarrhea. However there is no respiratory component to it as in coughing, and I had just a slight fever. 99.8. So I chalk it up to food poisoning or a common flu virus. I have the luxury of staying home as my business is at home. Feel better today and eating soups!

I haven't been sick in so long I forgot how miserable it is. My deepest sympathies for those getting sick out there. 
Title: Re: virus
Post by: taxid on Mar 12, 2020, 10:52 AM
I believe they said a few weeks ago they traced it back to the meat markets in Wuhan that were selling pangolin (scaly ant eaters).  The things were filthy with the virus

Hard to know what's accurate coming out of an authoritarian state with state run media. I wouldn't trust any information to China as far as I could throw a house.

I see they said they brought the infection rate down to zero or something like that. I seriously doubt that.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: taxid on Mar 12, 2020, 10:53 AM
http://
Scientists were close to a coronavirus vaccine years ago. Then the money dried up.

 Article by Dr Peter Hotez  I found interesting

I'd like to see a link to that article. I don't believe this new novel virus was out there "years ago."  Not saying you din't find found an article that says that, but I have serious doubts.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: zwiggles on Mar 12, 2020, 11:15 AM
Hard to know what's accurate coming out of an authoritarian state with state run media. I wouldn't trust any information to China as far as I could throw a house.

I see they said they brought the infection rate down to zero or something like that. I seriously doubt that.

Yeah the numbers coming out of Europe and more open countries are alarming. China clearly was not/is not being honest.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: NateFishNY on Mar 12, 2020, 11:34 AM
Traveling might be tough right now however my local trips wont be affected. Staying away from crowds is what I'm good at so I don't feel concerned at all. Trout season is here for me. A couple of weeks on year round streams or trophy sections until the opener on April 1!
Title: Re: virus
Post by: bbfrogger on Mar 12, 2020, 03:00 PM
World Health Organization official: 80 percent of coronavirus cases will involve mild symptoms:  "If you are coughing, if you have a fever, if you feel tired, and you think that you have been exposed to COVID-19, stay at home. We know that 80 percent of the people who are infected will have a mild disease that may go through ó the person can go through the disease just by staying home and protecting others."
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2020, 03:06 PM
I'd like to see a link to that article. I don't believe this new novel virus was out there "years ago."  Not saying you found an article that says that, but I have serious doubts.

It's on the internet....it has to be true.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 12, 2020, 04:28 PM

 The panic button has been pushed I guess
 Wegmans was out of TP , hand sanitizers
 , aerosol sprays , paper towels ,
 Was told BJs ran out in hour after opening ,
 And the media and politicians are fueling it , by criticizing but without any constructive criticism, so letís try and create a panic
 Hopefully they come up with a vaccine to help the ones with weakened  immune systems 
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 12, 2020, 04:37 PM
they have a  vaccine  it  has  to be  tested  and that  came  from  fox  and  cnn

the  reason it  was  easy  to  come  up with is the  fact is they  did  work on a  vaccine   prior  till funds ran out  for a  similar  corona virus  again that is  from our news  media not  the internet
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 12, 2020, 04:52 PM
Bunch of crap from the networks that fueled the toilet paper panic.
Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Badbrad2186 on Mar 12, 2020, 05:30 PM
Bunch of crap from the networks that fueled the toilet paper panic.
Rg

Stuff is shutting down all over the country and then in 2 or 3 weeks will be like it never happened like H1N1 and all the other viruses in last 10 years
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 12, 2020, 05:59 PM
be here longer then that i  think  then the financial effects will last a  while too ......media  hype gee 350,000 infected  5000 dead  i  think it's  more then  toilet paper people have a  right to be  scared
Title: Re: virus
Post by: 2muchleft on Mar 12, 2020, 06:07 PM
Its been a problem with the lack of testing.  Sounds like that may change soon.  Lots of changes coming quickly with closings all across the board.  Hope we can say in a couple of months we just over reacted.  I'm early 60's and can honestly say I can't remember anything ramping up this fast.  Time will tell.   
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Badbrad2186 on Mar 12, 2020, 06:13 PM
Its been a problem with the lack of testing.  Sounds like that may change soon.  Lots of changes coming quickly with closings all across the board.  Hope we can say in a couple of months we just over reacted.  I'm early 60's and can honestly say I can't remember anything ramping up this fast.  Time will tell.

I personally think its China way of getting back at the tariffs Trump made but I wont bring politics into this. I'm still going to Florida for 10 days at the beginning of april just hope we can do the stuff we have planned for the kids
Title: Re: virus
Post by: taxid on Mar 12, 2020, 06:26 PM
they have a  vaccine  it  has  to be  tested  and that  came  from  fox  and  cnn

the  reason it  was  easy  to  come  up with is the  fact is they  did  work on a  vaccine   prior  till funds ran out  for a  similar  corona virus  again that is  from our news  media not  the internet

Link please?
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 12, 2020, 07:01 PM
Link please?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/human-trials-testing-coronavirus-vaccine-could-begin-within-a-few-weeks.html


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Title: Re: virus
Post by: lowjack12 on Mar 12, 2020, 07:37 PM

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Title: Re: virus
Post by: reeleyz on Mar 12, 2020, 08:23 PM
As I was cutting todayís catch just now I got to thinking about what provisions I have to be self sufficient for a period of time.

Food, fuel, firewood and so on. Toilet paper does not even make my top 20.

That seems like the last thing I would be worried about?
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 12, 2020, 08:43 PM

 http:// So far, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.Feb 21, 2020
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Badbrad2186 on Mar 12, 2020, 08:48 PM
http:// So far, 16,000 people have died and 280,000 people have been hospitalized during the 2019-2020 flu season, according to preliminary estimates from the CDC.Feb 21, 2020

My wife is a nurse she said more people die every year fro. The flu than this has cause and to just wash your Dam HANDS
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 13, 2020, 05:21 AM
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corona  is a generic name for respiratory infections what we are facing is a new virus

 named ďSARS-CoV-2Ē and the disease it causes has been named ďcorona virus disease 2019Ē like a new strain of flu

the reason why more died with flu is many more people got the flu this virus just started  the dearh rate is much higher then the  flu

i think the toilet paper issue is people thinking hygene needs
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 13, 2020, 07:32 AM
The toilet paper frenzie is the direct result of social media. As is the huge panic going on right now. No new vaccine is going to be in place for many months. Depending on what internet blather you choose to believe, it's either going to decimate the entire planet or it's going to go away just as the last 3 major strains have.

I've watched the crazies for the last week buying up masks, TP, every type of cleaning product on the shelf, wipes, sanitizer and even tyvek suits. One woman bought 5 full cases of tyvek suits.

I asked a fellow yesterday with 10 24 packs of toilet paper in his cart why he was buying all that and his response was, "my wife told me to". With limits of 10 each of particular items, there was a woman on Monday who tried to get through the checkout with no less than 30 canisters of Lysol wipes. She was near hysterical when she was told that she was limited to 10. I thought they were going to have to call the police.

In my 70 years on this earth ( as of Monday) I've only seen people go this nuts maybe once before and that was during the so-called gas shortages. Social media and the world's addiction to instant contact and information are the root of this panic.

9 out of 10 panic buyers in the store have been  women. Coffee in one hand and cell phone in the other.

One good result is that people no longer want to thank me by shaking my hand. That always creeped me out anyway.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 13, 2020, 07:43 AM

  So true RG
 Iím working on 64 years and seen my share
 Of sickness , the media has definitely taken a hold of the reins , and not for the better as I see it ,
Title: Re: virus
Post by: mcully on Mar 13, 2020, 08:21 AM
Iíve never felt the need for a handgun until Wegmans last night when I stopped for cereal and crushed tomatoes. Third world country type actions going on.
Really sad.
My daughters a senior in college and struggles with school but works hard and is on track to graduate on time so for her not to be able to walk at graduation is going to be crushing.
My junior in high school most likely played her final travel volleyball and we will know shortly but most likely no spring school softball. Maybe no school period.
My wife and I however did buy a NOS 211 Key West this week so we can isolate ourselves in the middle of a lake. Probably not a wise financial move but this too shall pass.
Wash your hands upon entering my house is the new rule.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 13, 2020, 08:25 AM
So sad Mcully. But as you said...this too shall pass.

I'm curious to see what they'll be after today. I told one of the managers that they should move all the toilet plungers and snakes into the bays where the TP was.

Maybe we can start an internet rumor that the smell of new mulch around your house keeps the virus away. We've got about 120,000 bags of that on the property right now.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: FrankM on Mar 13, 2020, 08:40 AM
I got TP for sale. $1.00 a sheet.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: mcully on Mar 13, 2020, 09:35 AM
Iím mulching this weekend
Cleaned beds out and ran bagger already
Title: Re: virus
Post by: FrankM on Mar 13, 2020, 10:49 AM
The Ayatollah Tabrizian says western medicine is un-islamic. He recommends combing your hair, eating lots of onions and apples and inserting a cotton ball soaked in violet leaf oil in your anus to cure CV. Who knew?
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 13, 2020, 11:05 AM
well i'm no expert on  disease control   or  a  medical expert  .... hell i won't  even tell you how think the ice is  when i go in fear i could  tell you something wrong  but i know this  much ..... this  stuff is real  and is  bad ,nothing personal  , but i'm going to listen to  the  CDC and  WHO  experts  follow thier   suggestions  and   pray  a  few  people i know that are at high risk don't get it ..... am i worried  ..... thats a  BIG YES ....i wash my hands  about  20 times  a  day wash my face  and use  hand  sanitizer i wipe  counter tops  down   spray  door  knobs the  whole  deal  wash my face  when i  come in .... why  because i know this much ...i rather listen  to the  CDC  then a bunch of old farts  that love to  talk about catching perch and blue  gills (me included) i'm smart enough to know ,i don't know, so i follow  the  suggestions  of  experts....to not do so, i  not only endanger my life  but i  endanger everyone else i come into contact with  and those i love the most ...... now  i  was  afraid  to  give  a  ice  thickness report this  year  because i didn't  want to endanger anyone  else  ...i sure  don't want to down play  this and  get a  bunch of  people  sick or  worse ......  follow  the  reccomendations  of  the  CDC ......
Title: Re: virus
Post by: aquaman on Mar 13, 2020, 12:07 PM
Good news. Theres no virus in the middle of lake erie. Ill be there till october if anyone needs me
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Raquettedacker on Mar 13, 2020, 01:00 PM
They should have waited to have the 2020 census till next year.   Things might change in the next couple weeks..   8)   ;D
Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 13, 2020, 01:37 PM
I refuse to take the census. Always have. Even had a schmo come to my door to try to get me to take it. I told him to get lost. None of his business!

No one said not to follow the recommendations of health officials. I'd take a bath in hand sanitizer.....if the panic stricken droves hadn't bought it up.

Anyway, today it was laundry sanitizer ( which don't understand), bleach, Lysol, paper towels, industrial cleaners and bottled water.

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: UglyStik on Mar 13, 2020, 02:08 PM
So, I decided to listen to the WHO today.

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6FsMDqT/who-air-guitar.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6FsMDqT)

I do feel a little better.
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 13, 2020, 02:12 PM
 :clapping: :thumbup_smilie:
Title: Re: virus
Post by: Pequod1 on Mar 13, 2020, 02:39 PM
Costco was nuts today.  The line went to the back of the store. I watched people grab anything they could.  I left.  Iím going to grab bullets soon
Title: Re: virus
Post by: filetandrelease on Mar 13, 2020, 02:43 PM
 Well I got told they had police at wegmans , we stopped yesterday to pick up some staples and the place was nuts , Incase nobody thought about They canceled meeting places , so now they pack into stores Hmmmmm, so hysteria has created this , thank the media for help spreading viruses
Title: Re: virus
Post by: trapper2000 on Mar 13, 2020, 02:52 PM
little hint fillyou gas tanks
 and  i'm setting on the  mother load of  ammo  ;D

Title: Re: virus
Post by: rgfixit on Mar 13, 2020, 04:18 PM
Gee...that's encouraging. Sure you want to advertise that ?

Rg
Title: Re: virus
Post by: myemmy on Mar 13, 2020, 05:15 PM
Are the sporting goods stores and gun shops going to see and increase of sales?
Title: Re: virus
Post by: zwiggles on Mar 13, 2020, 05:24 PM
Are the sporting goods stores and gun shops going to see and increase of sales?

There had already been a huge run on them.