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Zorros shack

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Wire leader?
« on: Jul 12, 2007, 07:09 PM »
At Walmart they sell wire leader and I don't know if I should get it because pike and their teeth? Because they might bite the line or just leave the fishing line alone.

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #1 on: Jul 12, 2007, 11:17 PM »
It depends if you are only targeting pike or if you are going for other species to.
Pike will hit your lure with or with out a leader, but if there are other fish like walleye around they may shy away from it.  It's a matter of your own personal decision.

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #2 on: Jul 13, 2007, 10:35 AM »
I agree with Water Wolf  if your targeting the large toothy critters use a leader, i use just the stranded kind, not the cheaper ones.

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #3 on: Jul 13, 2007, 10:40 AM »
At Walmart they sell wire leader and I don't know if I should get it because pike and their teeth? Because they might bite the line or just leave the fishing line alone.
The first time you fail to employ a wire leader, inevitably you will hook the largest Pike/Muskie of your lifetime! You will resent forever that decision after he cuts your line like butter. Err on the side of caution, and use the leader, do not up your odds that you will lose the fish of a lifetime! JMO ;)
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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #4 on: Jul 13, 2007, 12:36 PM »
I have to agree with RL.  I like to fish for Macks(Lake Trout), and they tend to be a pretty finicky fish, but I have caught them while casting spoons for pike with wire leaders and they tag that spoon without reservation.  Had one last week that came up from under the boat and hammered my red/white Krokodile spoon when it was only 12 feet from the boat and about 10 feet down.  It wasn't the biggest Mack I've ever caught but boy did he fight.  Made two good runs on me and wanted nothing to do with the net.  19"er but spirit of a 30"er!!!

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #5 on: Jul 13, 2007, 01:55 PM »
Good wire (strand) leader.  IMHO

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #6 on: Jul 13, 2007, 04:37 PM »
Make your own leaders out of uncoated stranded wire. You don't need 75Lb brake strength leaders if you are fishing with 20lb line! ::)

I prefer 20-30lb American Fishing wire in 1x7 strand uncoated, the crimp sleeves to make the ends are usually right next to the wire in the store. You can select premium quality swivels and snaps in a similar strength to finish it off. Uncoated wire may me kinky and shot after a few nice fish, but you will catch more fish too!

When winter draws near, you can make your own quick strike rigs from the same wire. 8)

I want to try this stuff, but I haven't got around to it yet. Some guys say it is the ticket. Malin shock leader
     

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #7 on: Jul 14, 2007, 09:23 AM »
Matsuo Titanium leaders are my favorite....Yes they cost a TON, but they are the most supple, never kink and they use all Sampo snaps and swivels.  I didn't believe one of my buddies when he told me these things are bulletproof....until I tried it for myself.  Hard hits, big runs, weed battles...none of these cause stress kinks or turn your leader into a spring coil!


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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #8 on: Jul 14, 2007, 02:25 PM »
My leaders turn to curly Q's after that type of abuse. :'(

Time to try TITANIUM;)
     

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #9 on: Jul 14, 2007, 05:13 PM »
My pike rod has 10lb mono on the spool with a 4' peice of 12lb then a 1 1/2 '  a peice of 30lb on the end. I check it after every fish for nicks and frays and change it accordingly, I am just not a big fan of wire and haven't had a big Pike rip thru the 30lb yet. I have brought in Pike in the high teen and low 20lb range, not a ton of them but enough to make me have faith in my rig. I like the presentation advantage, I figure the bigger pike have seen a few steel and wire leaders in their day.
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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #10 on: Jul 14, 2007, 11:34 PM »
Hey Skipper, that BOA Ti wire leader sounds pretty cool and it is a decent price!!  Less than $20 bucks for a 30' spool of 40lb test and it has the same diameter profile as the Matsuo leaders I'm buying for $8 per 18" leader at 40lb test!!!!

Definately going to have to try some of that before Hard Water sets in!


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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #11 on: Jul 15, 2007, 06:56 AM »
on my tip ups i use 8 to 10 pound main line then invisa leader with a small tribel hook incressed my flags by 3 times just try it!!!! ya have to take your time when ya hook a big boy but ya get so many more flags

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #12 on: Jul 15, 2007, 02:52 PM »
AHHHH :cursing: :cursing:  My 20 pound Mono was cut by big pike 5 times today while bass fishing...  Im about ready to throw a leader on just so i stop losing lures...

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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #13 on: Jul 16, 2007, 08:56 AM »
Yes, titanium leaders are the ultimate for pike fishing,  I had a terminator that I easily landed over 1000 pike on in the past 3 summers, and finally lost it a few days ago when a snot rocket bit at the swivel instead of the lure, the leader was still in near perfect condition.  Steel works but get some with good snaps and swivels or make your own as mentioned.  You may even want to consider 80-100 lbs flourocarbon, but never mono even heavy stuff. 
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Re: Wire leader?
« Reply #14 on: Jul 25, 2007, 07:47 PM »
I would say if you're using a spinnerbait don't use a leader, you will catch more fish and I have NEVER had a pike bite one off. I would say if you plan on using a jig, live bait, or smaller lures definately use a leader!

 



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