The lake that we go up to in Michigan has 'em. We would always pack up the party barge(pontoon) and go out with a 1,000,000 candle spotlight and try to net 'em. You can see those red eyes staring back at ya from the light. I won't fool ya, it's easier to catch a buzz than it is a fish! LOTS of three footers, but we have seen fish up to 55" easily! They look like logs floating until you see those eyes. But here in Illinois, the hookless set-ups are the way to go, from what I here.....L8r, Prizz
**Go down south for a GAR vacation, look it up, there's 8 - 10 footers out there!!!!!