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operaman

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Check out this linkhttp://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main  this is a flash animation and really puts a spin on the events that happened at the Pentagon on Sept. 11

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #1 on: Sep 16, 2004, 08:18 AM »
Wow!!! the pictures speak for themselves....starts a new story altogether...grump

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #2 on: Sep 16, 2004, 12:25 PM »
I can't say I ever thought about that.  I just assumed there were parts of an aircraft there but I guess not.  ???  That's the first time I have ever heard about that but it sure does make you wonder why that wasn't looked into more or investigated at the time.

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #3 on: Sep 16, 2004, 01:40 PM »
The thing that sticks out the most to me is:
Ok, the Boeing didn't hit the Pentagon, so what the hell happened to it?

Nice find Operaman! I hope a lot of people check this out.
An investigation is still possible...

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #4 on: Sep 16, 2004, 01:49 PM »
That is pretty incredible.......made me think without a doubt.

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #5 on: Sep 16, 2004, 02:24 PM »
wow! That gives you something to think about.

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #6 on: Sep 16, 2004, 03:50 PM »
I'll try to find it but there is another site that totally takes on the arguments of this site and prooves the 757 did hit.

Jon
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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #7 on: Sep 16, 2004, 06:18 PM »
MAIN | AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 11 | AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77 | UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 175 | UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93| PENTAGON | WORLD TRADE CENTER
AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77

American Airlines Flight 77, from Washington to Los Angeles, crashed into the Pentagon with 64 people aboard.

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He is survived by a wife, a daughter and a grandson. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.

David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight. "He was handsome and happy and very centered," his neighbor Travis White, told The Washington Post. "His life was the kind of life I wanted to have some day."

Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. She left behind a husband, a pilot, and a daughter and son.

Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.

Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.

Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.


PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the surgeon general to address racial and ethnic disparities in health. A 1995 graduate of Marshall University School of Medicine, Ambrose last year was named the Luther Terry Fellow of the Association of Teachers of Preventative Medicine.

Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.

M.J. Booth

Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.

William Caswell

Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington. Asia was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

James Debeuneure, 58, of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington. He was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. He was embarking on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Eddie Dillard

Charles Droz

Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.

Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp., a software engineering firm. He worked on data systems for NASA and also developed data systems for the study of global and regional environmental issues. Falkenburg was traveling with his wife, Leslie Whittingham, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3.

Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.

Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington. He was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. A Mississippi native, he joined the society in 1987. "Joe Feguson's final hours at the Geographic reveal the depth of his commitment to one of the things he really loved," said John Fahey Jr., the society's president. "Joe was here at the office until late Monday evening preparing for this trip. It was his goal to make this trip perfect in every way."

Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.

Dee Flagg

Richard Gabriel

Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.

Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.

Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.

Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc., a wireless data and messaging company.

Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society. She was accompanying a group of students and teachers on an educational trip to the Channel Islands in California. Society President John Fahey Jr. said one of his fondest memories of Judge is a voice mail she and a colleague once left him while they were rafting the Monkey River in Belize. "This was quintessential Ann -- living life to the fullest and wanting to share it with others," he said.

Chandler Keller, 29, was a Boeing propulsion engineer from El Segundo, California.

Yvonne Kennedy

Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.

Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding. She joined the firm in 1993 and was part of the its telecommunications practice. She was married to Peter Batacan.

Norma Langsteuerle

Dong Lee

Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, was the associate director of clinical research for a biotech firm.

Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits, a consultation and referral service. He was married and had two children. Newton was on his way back to Orange County to retrieve his family's yellow Labrador, who had been left behind until they could settle into their new home in Arlington, Virginia.

Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN and was married to U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson. She twice called her husband as the plane was being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were armed with knives. She had planned to take a different flight, but she changed it at the last minute so that she could be with her husband on his birthday. She worked as an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s and later worked on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles.

Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.

Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.

Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme, a biotechnology firm. She was from Great Falls, Virginia, and was married to Stephen Push. She worked with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on developing a new policy governing cellular therapies, announced in 1997. She also worked on other major health-care legislation.

Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.

John Sammartino

Diane Simmons

George Simmons

Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California at Santa Barbara. She had just gotten the post August 31 and was making the trip to California to start work.

Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.

Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington. She was accompanying a student on an educational trip to the Channel Islands National Marine Sanctuary near Santa Barbara, California, as part of a program funded by the National Geographic Society.

Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.

Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland. The professor of public policy at Georgetown University in Washington was traveling with her husband, Charles Falkenberg, 45, and their two daughters, Zoe, 8, and Dana, 3. They were traveling to Los Angeles to catch a connection to Australia. Whittington had been named a visiting fellow at Australian National University in Canberra.

John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.

Vicki Yancey

Shuyin Yang

Yuguag Zheng
The Associated Press contributed to this report.


Some a$$holes, also claim the Nazi Holocaust never happend.., >:(

dtpatt21

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #8 on: Sep 16, 2004, 06:51 PM »
All these folks state: "It sounded like a missile!"  How does all these folks know what a missile sounds like?  Watching too many Hollywood movies?  I was in the Air Force, I never heard what a missile sounded like.

devil-man

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #9 on: Sep 17, 2004, 10:22 AM »
Ok, guys. Where's the wreckage???
The conspiracy theory is ringing...
Were any remains found to prove these people died?
A tooth, something?

operaman

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #10 on: Sep 17, 2004, 05:11 PM »
They're not saying that those people didn't crash, maybe just into the pentagon, I'm not trying to stir things up, I have my doubts that the plane that crashed in PA didn't crash that it was shot down, ever wonder why it was crashed in an open field and "STRAIGHT" down, if someone were trying to fly it it probably would've belly landed.  These people didn't die in vain, and I'm not saying that they did, I just wonder like anyone what the "truth" is!  and we'll never know!

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #11 on: Sep 17, 2004, 07:07 PM »
I want the truth.

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #12 on: Sep 17, 2004, 10:50 PM »
I gotta agree with the Drifter.  It happened the way it was reported.  For the truth, check this site out:

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

Looks like plenty of debris to me.

These conspiracy theories are generated by the same sort of idiots that send out the chain e-mail hoaxes.  They do it for their own popularity.  I would think that this is very painful to the victim's families.  Sorry, I don't support those theories at all.

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #13 on: Sep 18, 2004, 03:01 AM »
Fatboy, great site, very interesting!!! The only reason I posted that last page is because I thought it was interesting, I'll never know the truth and no one else will either......  great to think about it and it just goes to show everyone' s interest in it!

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Re: Pretty Interesting! Made me think! and that's hard to do!
« Reply #14 on: Sep 18, 2004, 07:09 AM »
Yeah, it's interesting and thought provoking.  I meant to say that in my last post. 

As we're sitting at our computers all warm and cozy in our homes, we have the ability to gather information off the net in search of the truth.  And, no matter what makes sense and what doesn't, no matter the source, we have to trust that what we read is the truth and make a determination on our own.  All of the evidence that we see is suspect since it could be doctored.  But, what I think is compelling is the eye witness accounts, but again, without understanding the eye witnesses credibility, we have to make a call on our own.  So, yes, we will never know the truth for sure while were here on our keyboards.   But, then again, you can say that about any topic, even those that we presume are fact.  I'm not saying that by posting that link that anyone here is wrong or anything, so I hope that I don't offend anyone here especially you, Operaman.  I meant that the originators of these conspiracies often have a different agenda in mind than the actual truth.  In this particular case, IMO there is sufficient evidence to support the events as reported originally.  If you do a search on the subject, you'll find a lot more in support of what was reported than on the basis of the conspiracy.  That's what I was getting at.

 



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