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hunts2long

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2019, 06:14 AM »
why does it suck?  the guy is a cheat.  rules are rules.

Pretty strong talk unless you know the guy. If he was out "snagging" walleyes then he's a "cheat". If he was out fishing and happened to foul-hook it, he is not a cheat. What would any of us do if we were lucky enough to bring a walleye like that into the boat? I would be happy just to see one like that next to the boat....h2l

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2019, 10:20 AM »
Pretty strong talk unless you know the guy. If he was out "snagging" walleyes then he's a "cheat". If he was out fishing and happened to foul-hook it, he is not a cheat. What would any of us do if we were lucky enough to bring a walleye like that into the boat? I would be happy just to see one like that next to the boat....h2l

I agree. Any of us that have fished long enough have accidentally fouled hooked fish. OTOH I would hope we would have the conviction not to enter the fish as a record, but it would be tough.

Over here in Ohio when the walleye run up the Maumee River from Lake Erie it's not hard to do it accidentally. Sadly I know of a guy that pulled one in and was in the process of removing the hook and got dinged for foul hooking. It's a kangaroo court over here and generates a lot of money. All the C.O,'s there drive spanking new SUV's. I wonder where that money comes from? Rumor has it they have a quota. I had run in with one of them that runs another business (illegal for him). He's what I call a dirty cop.
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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2019, 10:35 AM »
I agree. Any of us that have fished long enough have accidentally fouled hooked fish. OTOH I would hope we would have the conviction not to enter the fish as a record, but it would be tough.

Over here in Ohio when the walleye run up the Maumee River from Lake Erice it's not hard to do it accidentally. Sadly I know of a guy that pulled one in and was in the process of removing the hook and got dinged for foul hooking. It's a kangaroo court over here and generates a lot of money. All the C.O,'s there drive spanking new SUV's. I wonder where that money comes from?
Think I would have fought that one, that's ridiculous to get a ticket while unhooking a fish. If it was unhooked and not released then that's a different story.

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #18 on: May 15, 2019, 02:31 PM »
Just wondering what your opinions are on this scenario -

You catch a bass on a large jerk bait with 3 trebles. Tail treble is in fishes mouth but the middle and head treble are across the gill plate. First hook you take out is the tail end hook that was in the mouth. Then second treble is the middle one. If you at that point only saw 1 hook being removed from the gill plate, would you call that a foul hooked fish?

Yes at that point I believe it would be considered foul hooked.

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #19 on: May 15, 2019, 03:04 PM »
Just wondering what your opinions are on this scenario -

You catch a bass on a large jerk bait with 3 trebles. Tail treble is in fishes mouth but the middle and head treble are across the gill plate. First hook you take out is the tail end hook that was in the mouth. Then second treble is the middle one. If you at that point only saw 1 hook being removed from the gill plate, would you call that a foul hooked fish?

I would say it’s not foul hooked if it’s hooked in the mouth.

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2019, 03:19 PM »
Guys and Gals, I started this in a new topic so I do not Hi jack the original post.

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2019, 03:22 PM »
I went back to my post and Bolded the important part of my question. That 1 of 3 hooks was IN the fishes mouth. Because you see, if you start taking the hooks out one at at time in the reverse order, would you still count that as foul hooked?

It’s just my opinion but if it has a hook in the mouth, it’s not foul hooked.

I’m sure a CO would give you a hard time if it was only foul when he saw it. he’s not going to buy that the hooks were in the mouth as well.

State by state may have different rules highlighting what I’d and is not a snag/foul hooked fish.

taxid

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2019, 03:53 PM »
Think I would have fought that one, that's ridiculous to get a ticket while unhooking a fish. If it was unhooked and not released then that's a different story.

Its not worth getting your tackle and vehicle impounded and it's their word against yours.
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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #23 on: May 15, 2019, 05:11 PM »
Its not worth getting your tackle and vehicle impounded and it's their word against yours.

Yea, your right on there. Then they'd watch you like a hawk to boot.

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2019, 02:14 PM »
i always wanted to stand out in the river there and caast and yank(like im snagging) with just a sinker. lol

 i have caught them watching me with binoculars before.  thought they were hiding i guess. lol i sat down with my binocs and stared back at them till they went on their way. i know its their job but it still don't set well with me to be spied on!  people that aren't breaking the law usually take offense to being accused ya know. 

as far as the foul hooked fish, id say its the Burdon of the states to prove wrong doing. if there was a hook in its mouth then there is a hole.  its just a fish record for god sakes.  there are plenty of record fish caught and released every year that go unreported.

id have to see the video for myself. anyone have the link?

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2019, 02:25 PM »
Hey fishhogger I have personal experience with following all the rules, and a fish still was not allowed to be entered as a record. And of course an outdoor writer making it into a controversy didn't help either. He made a big deal out of it being caught in a private pond. Last I looked we have 12 state records out of private bodies of water! This was the same writer that got into hot water in IceShanty.com for complaing about people keeping "too many large perch." More or less a flyfishing purist that thought everything should be released.

But you know what? Doesn't bother me in the slightest. It was a personal achievement for me, and it's still the biggest yellow perch ever caught in the state I that I know of. And she's mounted in a ice fishing scene in a glass case in my studio.

Funny, got a call from an INDNR biologist about a year later wanting to use a picture of it, to brag it up as an Indiana yellow perch to some out of state biologists coming for a conference. I said no, as if it wasn't good enough for a state record than it wasn't good enough to brag about. Wasn't mean about it, and I respected and liked that biologist. But that was my stance on it. End of story.
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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2019, 02:29 PM »
i always wanted to stand out in the river there and caast and yank(like im snagging) with just a sinker. lol

 i have caught them watching me with binoculars before.  thought they were hiding i guess. lol i sat down with my binocs and stared back at them till they went on their way. i know its their job but it still don't set well with me to be spied on!  people that aren't breaking the law usually take offense to being accused ya know. 

as far as the foul hooked fish, id say its the Burdon of the states to prove wrong doing. if there was a hook in its mouth then there is a hole.  its just a fish record for god sakes.  there are plenty of record fish caught and released every year that go unreported.

id have to see the video for myself. anyone have the link?

I had business dealings with one of those C.O's in Ohio that patrolled the river. A bad cop if I ever saw one. No ethics or morals.
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filetandrelease

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2019, 02:52 PM »

The video was on Hardwater freaks on FB but it is a closed group ,

fishogger

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2019, 06:26 PM »
yea, old james p himself. lol  what a stroke that fool is.  your talking about "perch palooza". he almost got spit canned for that stunt. there were 4+ pages of people blowing him crap on line @ the kpc site.  I hear he actually called river scum and polecat wanting to talk about it. not for an apology mind you.  I have it on good authority they told him to go spawn himself. lmao ;)

I don't think private pond fish should be eligible for state records.  but, since they are, yours should have been allowed also!

 
ok thanks filetandrelease.  don't need to see it that bad. lol  FFB

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Re: ND walleye record broken
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2019, 07:25 PM »

No problem fishhogger , I don’t do the FB thing ,

 



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