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mcully

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« on: Jan 24, 2020, 12:01 PM »
Sons working at the college in Oswego and just text guys are out pulling boards on the big lake. Springs here I guess

rgfixit

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #1 on: Jan 24, 2020, 01:25 PM »
Been spring since November I think.

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #2 on: Jan 24, 2020, 06:24 PM »
Felt like spring here today..   Got up to 34* here... Still enough snow for the snow machines.....
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Re: Ontario
« Reply #3 on: Jan 24, 2020, 06:39 PM »
Mist feel like  the Galápagos Islands to you Dom.

Still 41 here.

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #4 on: Jan 26, 2020, 07:47 AM »
with the warm weather and light winds,ill be heading that way this week.

Mac Attack

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #5 on: Jan 26, 2020, 03:40 PM »
We were at the end of the Niagara by the fort yesterday fishing for browns.
I saw a boat out in the lake near the bar trolling.

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #6 on: Jan 27, 2020, 06:50 AM »
thanks for the info.mac.im hoping to launch in mexico as long as its ice free,thats the closest launch for me,but if not ill head west till I find one that's open

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #7 on: Jan 29, 2020, 09:57 AM »
Anyone having any luck catching?

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #9 on: Feb 18, 2020, 05:41 AM »
https://buffalonews.com/2020/02/07/lake-ontario-outflows-and-inflows-set-all-time-january-record/

It's gonna be bad. Luckily we don't have a huge snow pack here but we are just a tiny contribution to the big picture.

Mac Attack

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #10 on: Dec 08, 2020, 07:53 PM »
In the BN today -


New York's two U.S. senators joined the call for faster outflows from Lake Ontario Tuesday, as the International Joint Commission met to discuss whether to grant permission to send more water down the St. Lawrence River.

Groups of lakeshore property owners have agitated in recent weeks for more water to be let out of the lake now, contending that would reduce the chances of damaging floods next spring.

But the IJC's engineers said during a public webinar Nov. 20 that faster flows would not guarantee those results. They said a snowy winter and a wet spring might trigger floods regardless of current flows.

The senators, however, wrote in a letter to the IJC that they are concerned about the other four Great Lakes, all of which show water levels well above normal for this time of year.

Lake Erie was 25 inches above its long-term average Friday, according to the Army Corps of Engineers. Lake Michigan and Lake Huron were 32 inches above average and Lake Superior was 11 inches above normal.

Although Lake Ontario was only 3 inches above normal for the first week of December, the water from the other lakes eventually will arrive there.

"Particularly as Lake Ontario communities and homeowners are more strained as they confront new challenges due to the Covid-19 pandemic, it is critical for the IJC to reduce water levels now to safeguard Lake Ontario communities from spring flood risks," Schumer and Gillibrand wrote.



Lake Ontario already is 15 inches lower than it was a year ago, the Corps said.

The IJC's subsidiary, the International Lake-Ontario-St. Lawrence River Board, regulates the amount of water that flows past the Moses-Saunders Dam at Massena, at the eastern end of the lake.

The board has altered outflows on Saturdays since Halloween, keeping them in a range between 2.13 and 2.18 million gallons per second.

Its decisions are supposed to be governed by the flow targets set in Plan 2014, the IJC's controversial Lake Ontario water management plan, which, despite its name, was approved in December 2016.

Since then, there have been two years of damaging floods, in 2017 and 2019, and two quiet years, 2018 and 2020.

The IJC insists that although Plan 2014 envisioned slightly higher water levels in the lake, the floods were caused by unusually wet weather.

In the Nov. 20 webinar, Anthony David, a member of the Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence board, noted that there were no floods this year although the lake's level was slightly higher this April than it was in April 2019. Drier weather made the difference, David said.

But the IJC authorized deviating from Plan 2014 with speeded-up outflows after President Trump's appointees, including former Assemblywoman Jane L. Corwin of Clarence as co-chairwoman, joined the IJC in May 2019.


"When Lake Ontario’s water level climbed to more than 20 inches above the historical average in early 2020, residents were justifiably concerned that they were facing another flood-filled year," Schumer and Gillibrand wrote. "Then action by the IJC to boost outflows and deviate from Plan 2014, combined with some fortunate weather conditions, helped spare the region from a third year of floods."

The IJC already has ordered a three-year study of whether Plan 2014 should be modified.

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #11 on: Dec 09, 2020, 05:52 AM »
 Thanks Mac we shall see how it all works out , Lake Ontario is the last lake inline , and they can out flow only so much water , the Canadians aren’t flood themselves out ,
 And you can’t drain down to much  as ships draw more water as they carry much bigger loads these days but no mention of that
 Raise the water level for wet lands 😜
 And when politicians don’t have a clue
 The answer in this case another study ,suggesting 3 years JMO

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #12 on: Dec 11, 2020, 11:11 AM »
unbelievable .......... don't  say  anything  bad  about it  you'll be  told  everything  from people  shouldn't have built so close to  the lake to it's mother nature  .....sometimes i wish i was a  ostrich too......  it's  a  plan  gone  wrong   that helps  shipping and  cost the taxpayers   home owners and insurance companys billions to  make shipping cheaper.
yes we  need another  study   for  3  years at the cost of the tax payers to  tell is the water is  to high  , i had that idea when  i was  catching perch and  rock bass in  wrights landings  parking lot
you can destroy buildings  you can't  destroy the  american spirit

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #13 on: Dec 14, 2020, 12:43 PM »
more in today's BN -

The binational agency that controls the spigot in Lake Ontario will allow extra water to flow out of the lake this winter if conditions warrant that action.

"It's a modest reduction in flood risk for next year," Frank Bevacqua, a spokesman for the International Joint Commission, said Monday.

As things currently stand, the IJC termed next year's flood risk "moderate."

But with groups representing property owners – and New York's two U.S. senators – pressing for action, the International Lake Ontario-St. Lawrence River Board announced Monday that the IJC, its parent agency, has granted permission for accelerated outflows.

The authority for the extra discharges into the St. Lawrence past the Moses-Saunders Dam at Massena, at the lake's eastern end, is valid between Jan. 1 and Feb. 28, and could be extended.

"The Board will implement a deviation strategy to take advantage of opportunities that may arise through the winter," its statement said.

The lake's current level isn't high enough to trigger automatic outflow increases under terms of Plan 2014, the IJC's controversial lake management policy. That's why the permission for higher flows was a deviation from the plan that required an IJC vote.

As always, the agency says the weather is the wild card.

"The board will do everything they can to reduce the risk of flooding next year, but whether or not it floods really depends on what happens in April and May," Bevacqua said.

"The risk of high water on Lake Ontario in 2021 is moderate due to persistent high-water levels on Lake Erie and the upper Great Lakes. This will cause inflows to Lake Ontario from Lake Erie to remain high over the coming winter months," the announcement said. "The main driver of a high-water event in the Lake Ontario basin will depend on seasonal factors such as precipitation and snowpack runoff."

As of Friday, according to U.S. Army Corps of Engineers measurements, Lake Ontario's water level was 15 inches lower than it was last year at this time, but 3 inches above the long-term average for mid-December.

Lake Erie is 1 inch below its December 2019 level, but it's 2 feet higher than its long-term average, the Corps reported. Lakes Huron, Michigan and Superior also are well above average levels, but slightly lower than they were last December.

Sens. Charles E. Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand last week released a letter calling on the IJC to permit more discharge from Lake Ontario again this winter.

"When Lake Ontario’s water level climbed to more than 20 inches above the historical average in early 2020, residents were justifiably concerned that they were facing another flood filled year," the senators said. "Then action by the IJC to boost outflows and deviate from Plan 2014, combined with some fortunate weather conditions, helped spare the region from a third year of floods."

Bevacqua said the lake's peak in 2020 was 20 inches lower than its peak in the flood year of 2019.

"Of that difference, less than 2 inches was the result of the extended deviation authority," Bevacaqua said. "Most of it was that Plan 2014 was directing higher outflows, and favorable conditions – not as much rain and snow, basically."

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Re: Ontario
« Reply #14 on: Dec 14, 2020, 06:47 PM »
 
 Thanks Mac ,

 



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