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icefisher47

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Fly fishing monthly boxes
« on: Aug 29, 2020, 09:38 AM »
I was wondering if there was any monthly fly fishing boxes. I know they have them for other species. Next question is I want to start tying flies. Any recommendations on what a beginner needs?
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #1 on: Aug 29, 2020, 05:10 PM »
First off, youíll need to start planning the addition to your home. No way youíll have enough room.

Seriously though, youíll need a vise. Canít tie without a vise. You can spend $50 or $500. Spend what you want to, but its hard to go wrong with a Danvise to start. True rotary ( which youíll come to use), reasonable at around $100. I tied more flies than I cold count on one before my Dyna King. Theyíre well built and Very functional.

Tools;
Bobbins
Scissors ( Dr. Slick are hard to beat)
Bodkin
Whip finisher
Light....a good working light to tie by.
Other stuff youíll accumulate as time goes by

Materials;
Hereís where you run into the need for an addition. But, to start, choose a few patterns you want to tie and get the stuff to do it. Watch a bunch of videos. Davie McPhail is my go to for new flies and techniques. Tight lines Videos is another great source. Tim is super at explaining tying techniques.

Start with fishable flies. Wooly buggers, streamers, foam spiders  a  few nymphs and such. Stuff you can catch fish with. No use tying flies if they donít  catch fish. Not that every fly Iíve come up with worked. But, itís the journey thatís important.

Set up a place where you can tie. Whatever it ends up being, try to dedicate an area to tie. Thatís my preference anyway.

Forget the ďmonthly BoxesĒ and get to it.

Fly tying......itís. BLESSING........and a CURSE!

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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #2 on: Aug 30, 2020, 10:25 PM »
No boxes here. just stuff. :laugh:




icefisher47

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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #3 on: Aug 31, 2020, 08:43 AM »
First off, youíll need to start planning the addition to your home. No way youíll have enough room.

Seriously though, youíll need a vise. Canít tie without a vise. You can spend $50 or $500. Spend what you want to, but its hard to go wrong with a Danvise to start. True rotary ( which youíll come to use), reasonable at around $100. I tied more flies than I cold count on one before my Dyna King. Theyíre well built and Very functional.

Tools;
Bobbins
Scissors ( Dr. Slick are hard to beat)
Bodkin
Whip finisher
Light....a good working light to tie by.
Other stuff youíll accumulate as time goes by

Materials;
Hereís where you run into the need for an addition. But, to start, choose a few patterns you want to tie and get the stuff to do it. Watch a bunch of videos. Davie McPhail is my go to for new flies and techniques. Tight lines Videos is another great source. Tim is super at explaining tying techniques.

Start with fishable flies. Wooly buggers, streamers, foam spiders  a  few nymphs and such. Stuff you can catch fish with. No use tying flies if they donít  catch fish. Not that every fly Iíve come up with worked. But, itís the journey thatís important.

Set up a place where you can tie. Whatever it ends up being, try to dedicate an area to tie. Thatís my preference anyway.

Forget the ďmonthly BoxesĒ and get to it.

Fly tying......itís. BLESSING........and a CURSE!

RG
Thank you Iím going to go to Deerfield fly fishing after we complete our move. Are those videos on DVDs? Looking foreword to learning how to tie flies and learn how fly fish as well.
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #4 on: Aug 31, 2020, 08:59 AM »
YouTube!
Just search the two names. McPhail is incredible. One of the most skilled fly tiers Iíve ever. Tim Flagler who does the Tightlnes videos is very descriptive and offers some great tips and tricks for tying. Pop over to the New York forum and check out the ďHey Fly TiersĒ thread. Bunch of good stuff there and lots of help if you need it.

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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #5 on: Aug 31, 2020, 09:21 AM »
Thank you, Iíll check out those two on you tube and Iíll check out Hey Fly Tiers on the New York Forum. Iíll try and not ask any stupid questions.
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #6 on: Aug 31, 2020, 10:08 AM »
Tim's stuff is great and he does a ton of flies that catch trout around new england.

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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #7 on: Aug 31, 2020, 10:46 AM »
PostFly is a monthly subscription that will supply you with basic fly fishing equipment.  I've been impressed with everything in the boxes with the exception of the leaders.  Do yourself a favor and throw them out and get some decent leaders.  They also have the option to select fly tying supplies as a monthly option so you could do that down the line once you get a vise.
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #8 on: Aug 31, 2020, 11:20 AM »
No offense intended but, Ive looked at Postfly. Seems pricy for a package of items you may not need. To start Iíd probably just buy the best tools you can afford as you can. $300 for the year will buy you some really nice tools. Probably more than you need.

By the way, there are no stupid questions about fly tying.

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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #9 on: Aug 31, 2020, 03:57 PM »
No offense intended but, Ive looked at Postfly. Seems pricy for a package of items you may not need. To start Iíd probably just buy the best tools you can afford as you can. $300 for the year will buy you some really nice tools. Probably more than you need.

By the way, there are no stupid questions about fly tying.

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If you are really going to dedicate the time and effort to tying then I agree.  However, I've got $100's of dollars of money invested in tying supplies and really end up tying in the winter months.  I'd rather fish 10 out of 10 times versus tie flies.  I think for someone just getting into the sport who wants to figure out if its something worth investing in, its worth a few months to get some basic flies and accessories.
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #10 on: Sep 01, 2020, 03:24 AM »
I see your point. Itís hard for me to remember when I didnít have a room full of fly tying stuff. Thinking hard about it I used a Thompson Model B clamped to the kitchen table and a shoe box with tools and materials from a Herterís fly tying kit. About the only fly I tied was a Mickey Finn.

Ive fished every day since March when I took a leave from my part time job at Lowes. Ive also tied every day. I have that time and Iím always tweaking patterns and trying to come up with something new. In the winter, since I donít ice fish much any more, I mostly spend my time in the wood shop on the lathe.

But, the boat is hooked up and yesterday I tied up some new Crappie flies to try. Iíve been getting some big perch trolling so Iím also going to try slow trolling a Mop Fly that I tied with a small Propeller blade,  kind of worm harness style.

Whatever you tie, donít forget to go fishing.

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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #11 on: Sep 01, 2020, 08:52 AM »
No offense intended but, Ive looked at Postfly. Seems pricy for a package of items you may not need. To start Iíd probably just buy the best tools you can afford as you can. $300 for the year will buy you some really nice tools. Probably more than you need.

I checked out pricefly for both the fly tying and their regular box. They offer a Starter kit and a Quarantine kit for the same money. I think Iíll check out a local fly fishing shop and spend the money there. If they donít have a Danvise where would be a good place to get one?

By the way, there are no stupid questions about fly tying.

Rg
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #13 on: Sep 02, 2020, 07:00 AM »
Amazon is as reasonable as anyplace.

This one isnít a Danica brand but looks to be the exact same vise.
https://www.amazon.com/Riverruns-Generation-Fly-Tying-Extendable/dp/B081ZYR36T/ref=sr_1_2?crid=IVR8K75XL5QX&dchild=1&keywords=danvise+fly+tying+vise&qid=1598974001&sprefix=danvise%2Caps%2C159&sr=8-2

Rg

That vise looks good, Should I get a pedestal for it or should I get a portable work station?
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Re: Fly fishing monthly boxes
« Reply #14 on: Sep 02, 2020, 07:58 AM »
Itíll mount pretty firmly to the edge of a platform. When I built my bench back then, I drilled a hole through the bench and mounted it through the hole. It put it at the right distance and height for me. I donít  know that it will work on a pedestal. The shaft is too long and it would sit up too high. Also the shaft on mine was a composite material not steel. The higher up it sits from the base, the more flex there is in the shaft.

My Dyna King has a heavy steel pedestal and I still found that it would move around a bit tying certain flies that took some serious thread tension to complete. I picked up a bamboo cutting board at Goodwill and inlaid 4 heavy ceramic magnets that sit under the base. It wonít move.



The cutting board turned out to be a great idea. It has a shallow groove all around the edge to catch juices and such. Beads and other things that tend to roll off the bench on the floor never to be found again end up in that channel. Also note that i mounted the bobbin holder away from and inline with the centerline of the vise. I did the same with my Danvise. Never liked the bobbin holder attached to the vise shaft. Moving it away gives me more room to work when doing rotary tying.


Whatever you use or make for a work station will change as time goes by. Iíve probably had a dozen different benches. Never saw a manufactured bench that had everything where I wanted it. But then, Iím an old woodworker and cabinet maker. I like to build stuff.

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