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Title: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 21, 2011, 06:05 PM
Whos startin one and what 'yas plantin?...this year I have Brandywine, Beefsteak, Roma, and Big Boy tomatoes, kirby cucumbers, sweet corn, cauliflower, broccoli, brussels sprouts, green peppers, garlic, dill, and parseley...of course I didnt plant them yet, but the seedlings are already 2" high...I fertilize with fish (go figure  ;D) , cow manure, compost and grass clippings...mighty fine soil and the nightwalkers love it too! added bonus bait!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Raquettedacker on Mar 21, 2011, 06:41 PM
I grow a good size one every year.. To bad its still under snow... ;D ;D   Lots of tomatoes, early girl and beefsteaks and a couple yellow cherry tomato plants. About 65 plants in all..   Peppers are Bells, cherry and jalapeno, usually around 100 plants...  Than market more and burpless cucumbers, and a lot of green and yellow zucchini.   Along the fence I plant pumpkins and a couple different kinds of squash...    On the other end I have a spot to plant 3 different plantings of beans and peas..   We do a lot of canning and freeze a lot...
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 21, 2011, 06:57 PM
I usually only can tomatoes since they are so plentiful...everything else I eat!....more snow in the forecast here too....5" comin wednesday :o ;D
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: sparkie on Mar 22, 2011, 08:38 AM
I do the usual stuff.  Last year just for giggles I bought some of the lemon cukes and tried them.  They look like a lemon, small and round and are quite prolific.  I planted mine on a tralis, since space is limited.  They vined and clung to the tralis with little help from me.  Still had cukes into the early days of October last year. Vines were still producing flowers into the last of September.  Each plant averaged around 8 cukes.  Planted hem the same time as the regular cukes.  Once the regular ones were done for the year the lemons became ripe.  Kept them for up to 2-3 weeks after the last pickin without refridgeration.  Since it's only me and the wife they are perfect. 
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: ole sam on Mar 28, 2011, 09:02 AM
Have to plant one every year, wouldn't be summer without it.  Yep on Brandywine Tomatoes, a cherry tomatoe too.  Garlic and spinach I planted last fall are already doing well (though under a bit of snow); parsley and chives growing too.  My big favorite though is string beans - pole and bush varieties.

How do you use fish for fertilizer?   ???  I'm afraid I'll have every racoon in Luzerne County in there diggin them up at night.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 28, 2011, 03:19 PM
I just bury the carcass...or a stockie trout whole  :rotflol:.... under 6" of soil at least....before I transplant into to garden I also dig the hole a little deeper and drop a fish in the hole, put the plants rootball right on top and cover up normally...just like the indians used to do! I know some people will put the fish carcasses into a bucket with a little water and epsom salt...it turns into an emulsion within a few weeks and spread it like manure..I never tried it that way tho...
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: ole sam on Mar 29, 2011, 08:39 AM
Interesting!  I kept my ice fishing fish carcasses in a closed bucket outside and then dug them into the garden a couple weeks ago when the ground thawed.  I'll try doing the carcass under the transplant later this Spring (assuming I catch something).  Thanks!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 29, 2011, 10:17 AM
what better free fertilizer than that? great source of nitrogen!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 29, 2011, 10:22 AM
I tilled up a new patch next to the main garden and going to plant some strawberries in there...I havent planted them in years, so Im looking forward to them.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: pooley on Mar 29, 2011, 10:38 AM
i plant tomatoes, bell peppers, and hot peppers at the firehouse. gonna add some stuff this year. ;D
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: TheDL on Mar 29, 2011, 10:46 AM
man - I wish I could have a garden.  I have room, but no fence and I  live in a row of townhouses - my jerk neighbour has a very large dog that destroys everything in sight, and ruined my efforts last year.  I rent, so I can't put up a fence - tried using small posts/chicken wire around the garden last year and that got trashed.  Anyone got any clever ideas to keep a big german sheppard out of your yard/garden?
I've tried talking to them, and chasing it away everytime it comes over (daily) - but nothing seems to work?!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 29, 2011, 11:45 AM
instead of wire fence, why not use the wooden pressure treated lattice? thats a little sturdier.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: TheDL on Mar 29, 2011, 11:52 AM
hmm...that's not bad - although I'm thinking that dog would just mow it over.  It's a big dumb dog that is not taken care of or trained at all (I love dogs).  The d**n thing tipped over by (large) bbq once :o
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 29, 2011, 12:42 PM
wow...you better opt for the electric fence then!!!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: OTIS on Mar 29, 2011, 12:49 PM
Hook an extension cord up to your fence!

Whats everyones favorite type of tomatoes and peppers?

I'm thinking of planting a larger garden this year and would like to get several different types of tomatoes and peppers.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: slabspanker on Mar 29, 2011, 01:03 PM
I plant a mix: sweetcorn, cantaloupe, green & red bells, Green beans, Beets ,and butternut squash, beefsteak tomatoes too!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 29, 2011, 01:25 PM
I really like the brandywines...and usually bigboys and beefsteaks
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: TheDL on Mar 29, 2011, 01:49 PM
wow...you better opt for the electric fence then!!!
hahaha, I wish - stupid people make for stupid pets :-\
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 29, 2011, 03:38 PM
hahaha, I wish - stupid people make for stupid pets :-\
barbed wire and razor wire are also other options!!  :o :rotflol:
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: venisonman on Mar 29, 2011, 04:36 PM
hmm...that's not bad - although I'm thinking that dog would just mow it over.  It's a big dumb dog that is not taken care of or trained at all (I love dogs).  The d**n thing tipped over by (large) bbq once :o

Hmmmmmmm.........Claymore?
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: pooley on Mar 29, 2011, 05:39 PM
man - I wish I could have a garden.  I have room, but no fence and I  live in a row of townhouses - my jerk neighbour has a very large dog that destroys everything in sight, and ruined my efforts last year.  I rent, so I can't put up a fence - tried using small posts/chicken wire around the garden last year and that got trashed.  Anyone got any clever ideas to keep a big german sheppard out of your yard/garden?
I've tried talking to them, and chasing it away everytime it comes over (daily) - but nothing seems to work?!
try containers. big ones! 25 gallon! then chicken wre, but no topsoil. use a potting mix. ;)
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: ole sam on Mar 29, 2011, 07:05 PM
I really like the brandywines...and usually bigboys and beefsteaks

X2 on the Brandywines
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: TheDL on Mar 30, 2011, 09:28 AM
try containers. big ones! 25 gallon! then chicken wre, but no topsoil. use a potting mix. ;)
hmmm...that might actually work.  I'll give it a go - I love fresh veg, if I get it going definately gonna do bell peppers, peas, squash, lettuce, beefstake tomatoes, cherry tomatoes
nothing better than food you grew/caught/killed yourself - so satisfying and fresh!

Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 30, 2011, 12:01 PM
you said it...I dont trust the government or the FDA...I grow my own, catch my own, kill my own, and cook my own! A country boy can survive!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: TheDL on Mar 30, 2011, 12:17 PM
me either - and that's such a problem for our young ones.  video game skills won't feed you when the "grid" is down - take a kid fishing, and teach 'em to grow / gut thier own!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 30, 2011, 07:29 PM
yeah...its a shame that kids these days only want to stay indoors and play the almighty video game....when I was a kid we used to go out to the woods and build bunks and such....definitely try and introduce a youngster to the outdoors!
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: JiggerMan on Mar 30, 2011, 08:13 PM
we bought our first house in the fall last year so this will be my first year with free Raine on what i can do.  I already have a 4 x 100 foot roll of vinyl coated 1/2 square wire for the fence.  I was planning on making one part enclosed in the fence that will contain all the things that the deer and other critters might enjoy and then plant things like peppers, potatoes, corn, pumpkins and some squash on the outside around the edges. 

I do a lot of canning with the veggies.  several different kinds of salsa, tomato sauce, some wet peppers, some pickled beets and all different kinds of pickles. 

If i can find some spores and some logs this spring i might even get my shitakes going for next year.  I was thinking of 30-50 logs. 

 
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Rebelfisher on Mar 31, 2011, 07:26 AM
Jigger, what is your recipe for the salsa, if ya dont mind sharing it?
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: ole sam on Mar 31, 2011, 08:54 AM
I was planning on making one part enclosed in the fence that will contain all the things that the deer and other critters might enjoy and then plant things like peppers, potatoes, corn, pumpkins and some squash on the outside around the edges. 

 

Two comments:  Deer in my backyard last year cleared any fence below 5' (stopped when I went to 6').  Deer will eat young pepper plants - one cropped all of mine last year.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: JiggerMan on Mar 31, 2011, 03:19 PM
ole sam,

I was mainly trying to keep the bunnies and Ground hogs out with the fence...... and hopefully deter the deer from getting some things.  I live around some farmland with one producing a lot of the veggies for the local markets and some of my neighbors have gardens that have no fence at all that i could tell... and their gardens look like the did well.

Kind of banking on the deer going to the larger farms and the unfenced ones instead of mine.

JM
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: ole sam on Mar 31, 2011, 06:48 PM
JM,

Hopefully you'll be right!  I never had much of a deer problem (just chucks & rabbits) till last summer when 3 bachelor bucks began visiting.  They can eat a lot in one night... 

I hope you do well!

OS
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: OTIS on Apr 05, 2011, 11:05 AM
I got 108 seeds started in their Jiffy greenhouses.  I planted: early girl tomatoes, beefsteak tomatoes, steak sandwich tomatoes, brandywine tomatoes, Italian sweet peppers, Italian long hot peppers, cayenne peppers, and habanero peppers.  Now I have to wait and see what kind of green thumb I really have.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: ole sam on Apr 05, 2011, 11:23 AM
WOW 108 seeds started!  That's a lot of transplanting to do OTIS!  Leave yourself some time to fish.   ;D

Seriously though, you must have quite a bit of garden space to put in that many plants.  Are you going to direct seed other vegetables as well?
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: OTIS on Apr 05, 2011, 11:37 AM
This is my first year starting from seed.  For what the plants cost, I figured I'd have nothing to lose.  We have a lot of space to plant them, I'm hoping that the majority of them make it through the whole process.  We'll probably end up having a hundred tomato plants and a couple hundred pepper plants between the bunch of us.  Next year I may try playing around with some watermelons.  I think the kids would like those.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: JRA on Apr 05, 2011, 06:22 PM
I keep telling myself someday I'm gonna have a nice little garden but right now I make a living growing veggies.  Started planting tomatoes in the ground today.  They were about 18" high.  Got about 150 in and alot more to go.  Grow these in a greenhouse,  my oil co LOVES me,  I'm in New Hampshire. Growing a garden should be relaxing.   Have fun.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: slipperybob on Apr 17, 2011, 04:15 AM
I'm going to try my vegetable garden again this year.  Hopefully my blueberry and raspberry plants that I've attempted this year won't get killed by this cold snow spell we've got going this week.  Then I'll have to go back for some more plants.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: drfhaha123 on May 20, 2011, 02:46 AM
1st time doing a garden,raised bed 4x12 feet,how many plants can i fit,tomato,pepper,and summer sq.?
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: OTIS on May 20, 2011, 07:11 AM
Google "Square Foot Gardening".  You should be able to get your answer there.
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: esox v on May 23, 2011, 04:42 PM
me either - and that's such a problem for our young ones.  video game skills won't feed you when the "grid" is down - take a kid fishing, and teach 'em to grow / gut thier own!
  You will be good if the grid goes down this year.. Next year you will need to buy more seeds... and if the grids down...Will there be any left to buy ??  You have to buy non hybrid seeds and keep them on hand then you can uses seeds from the veggies you have... to grow more.....Just a thought..
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: slipperybob on May 29, 2011, 01:55 PM
I actually got something poking out of the ground now instead of weeds.  ;D
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: Raquettedacker on May 29, 2011, 01:59 PM
I have all my plants sitting on the picnic table ready to go in but I'm going fishing instead.... ;D
Title: Re: Vegetable Gardens
Post by: redarrow61 on May 29, 2011, 02:29 PM
hahaha, I wish - stupid people make for stupid pets :-\
Feed him some lead